Video: ST00's MMA fight (for real)

[Merryprankster]

Anyway you said the same thing about kung Lei, when I pointed ot that he's a CMA you gave credit to his Wrestling backround witch he didn't use at all.

???

If you think his wrestling credentials (which are excellent) don't inform his fighting...

Wow. Just Wow.

[Green Cloud]

MP please don't bait me into another one of these discussions, I'm just talking about symantics nothing else. Any way this thread is about ST performance not CMA VRS. MMA.

[Water Dragon]

Good fight, Bro. The only critique I have is that you when you had him in guard, you spent a lot of time on your back instead of on your hips.

And before I forget: Dayum Bro, you make MP look purty you ugly Bastige.

[Pork Chop]

And before I forget: Dayum Bro, you make MP look purty you ugly Bastige.

You will not talk about my twin brother like that!
Beware for you have now incurred my wrath and the fury.
Your puny little town of San Antonio will now be consumed by temperatures exceeding 100 degrees F.

O wait... MP *IS* purty...

[Water Dragon]

lol. When you gonna come visit Bro? I got a couple guys under me right now. I'm not really qualified to teach, but I can beat them up pretty easy so I figure why not?

[lkfmdc]

[QUOTE=ShaolinTiger00]

USKBA rules B L O W

[QUOTE]

Hey, guess what? If you don't like them, you don't have to compete under them. Is there a point to constantly *****ing about them on here? No one is going to make you compete under them

[ShaolinTiger00]

Hey guess what? I've got an opinion and if I feel like expressing it I will. I only bring them up when I'm talking to Ray about them. It's a public forum. God knows you've said things on here (or there) that people don't agree with..

[Pork Chop]

lol. When you gonna come visit Bro? I got a couple guys under me right now. I'm not really qualified to teach, but I can beat them up pretty easy so I figure why not?

All I can say is "soon"... I can not betray my whereabouts or my intentions because there are ninjas luking... deadly martian ninjas and they will numchuck my azz...

Nah, I really don't know. My birfday is the 19th, but this saturday is a fillipino festival that i wanna take my woman to.

Maybe the following weekend, gotta see what else is goin on.
I really wanna show my girl San Antonio, Austin, and maybe even Lubbock.
I'll let yah know.

[Ray Pina]

ideally, the head isn't exposed. when the shot is done correctly, the head is in deep - past the body. It is not available to be hit. As with any technique, it can be countered, which is what the sprawl is great for.

Before your head can get in deep, it has to go past the range of a fist, forearm and elbow. And if your arms are grabbing a leg, the head is completely open.

Now, I understand that strikes can miss. And if the shoot is good and the striker is caught unaware, it will be succesful.

But generally, especially in fighting, I don't like 50/50 odds.

[Ray Pina]

If you are Scotch-Irish, what's with all the Puerto Rican posturing?

That's a Cuban flag .... revolutionary red

[SevenStar]

Before your head can get in deep, it has to go past the range of a fist, forearm and elbow. And if your arms are grabbing a leg, the head is completely open.

Now, I understand that strikes can miss. And if the shoot is good and the striker is caught unaware, it will be succesful.

But generally, especially in fighting, I don't like 50/50 odds.

nah, it's in the setup, man like anything else. I'm not gonna shoot in while you are ready to retaliate. i will follow one of your kicks back in, duck under a punch, etc. I will let you make it easy for me to pass the fist, forearm and elbow. you really can't deny the effectiveness of it - it's probably the most successfully used takedown in wrestling and mma. IMO, 50/50 odds are something you learn to deal with. Nothing is 100%...

[fa_jing]

Before your head can get in deep, it has to go past the range of a fist, forearm and elbow. And if your arms are grabbing a leg, the head is completely open.

Now, I understand that strikes can miss. And if the shoot is good and the striker is caught unaware, it will be succesful.

But generally, especially in fighting, I don't like 50/50 odds.

He did hit him on the way in, fairly well, it just wasn't enough. It's like when I'm driving on the highway, I have my plan, my direction, but I like to have a backup plan too where I can jump into another lane or spot in case someone tries to do something crazy or the wheel pops off or whatever. I think it has to be two things, cause the guy is going to adjust. Or like Monkeyslap taught us in his seminar, you need to affect two different planes in order to throw someone. Just one and they can stumble out of it.

[SevenStar]

speaking of monkeyslap, where is he??

[Merryprankster]

I'm just talking about symantics nothing else.

1. Semantics are the soul of argumentation and meaning. Without establishing what it is we are actually talking about (not you/me, but in general) argumentation serves no purpose since definitions wouldn't be clearly understood.

2. Ah good! If it's all semantics, then there is no point in using style as anything other than shorthand for a preferred approach to fighting. We're all doing exactly the same things, when comparing apples to apples. I've been vigorously arguing this for quite some time now.

[BlueTravesty]

style vs. training methods... hey is that square 1 I see right in front?