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    Tom Yum Goong

    We discussed Tom Yum Goong on a thread here a long time ago....

    Funny you should mention that on this thread. I was thinking that Old Boy and Tom Yum Goong were both recent films that had long, one-shot fight scenes. The hallway fight in Old Boy and the going-up-the-staircase fight in Tom Yum Goong were both brilliantly choreographed. The longer the shot, the more respect I have for the choreographer. It's really hard to sustain a long fight like that.
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    Of course...

    Good point! Both scenes are awesome in terms of choreography how hard must it be to keep the shot giong and to continue fighting like that!

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    Talking PLEASE POST WHEN ONG BAK 2 IS AVAILABLE FOR DVD(I may even get it from yur site gene)

    Of the top of my head, for good non cut extended fight scenes, you should check out "Ninja in the Dragon's Den" . Sanada and Conan Lee have 2 spectacular 1 on 1 battles. The first is unique, the second is breathtaking.

    Is Sanada a monkey turned human? I think he is and they gave him the facial features from that kid in Seven Samurai.
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    Ah ha! Had forgotten about that one- on the side of the building. That was a great film too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su Lin
    Ah ha! Had forgotten about that one- on the side of the building. That was a great film too!
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    "For someone who's a Shaolin monk, your kung fu's really lousy!"
    "What, you're dead? You die easy!"
    "Hold on now. I said I would forget your doings, but I didn't promise to spare your life. Take his head."
    “I don’t usually smoke this brand, but I’ll do it for you.”
    "When all this is over, Tan Hai Chi, I will kick your head off and put it on my brother's grave!
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    aaaw, thank you! It's nice to see some love being spread on these forums!

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    Inspiration for the fight scene in Oldboy?

    Not the best fight scene but definitely the inspiration.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm2ImZNX4Rg
    "For someone who's a Shaolin monk, your kung fu's really lousy!"
    "What, you're dead? You die easy!"
    "Hold on now. I said I would forget your doings, but I didn't promise to spare your life. Take his head."
    “I don’t usually smoke this brand, but I’ll do it for you.”
    "When all this is over, Tan Hai Chi, I will kick your head off and put it on my brother's grave!
    "I regard hardships as part of my training. I don't need to relax."

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    Hmm I'm not seeing the connection except for the fact that it is 1 vs. many. The fight scene from Old Boy (Hammer Time!) is much better if you ask me, especially cinematographicaly (is that a word? ).

    The differences that I see: well, part of the cool thing about the Oldboy scene was that it took place in a corridor -- and he basically worked his way down it, where in this clip, it is outdoors and the hero is attacked from 360 degrees. Also, in the clip you linked, the hero is obviously skilled in kicking and used the typical martial arts movie fighting techniques, whereas in Oldboy, he went nuts with a hammer and then his fists, and it was more of a brawl type fight that showed his toughness and scrapiness rather than martial technique.

    My favorite parts of the Oldboy scene: the fact that he spends half of the fight with a knife stuck in his back, and the scene at the end where the elevator opens, a batch of new guys peer out and see Oldboy and the wake of his carnage. They look dumbstruck, and it cuts to a closeup of Oldboy first looking dazed, and then a maniacal grin appears on his face. Finally, you see the elevator opening, and several limp bodies come spilling out, along with Oldboy himself -- very cool piece of filmmaking.
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    To take this topic a little bit further, I've always loved the 1 vs. many fight scenes -- obviously in many old Shaw Brothers you would see the heroes fighting off throngs of Manchu soldiers. All of the martial arts stars each had a big scene like this at some point as well, such as:

    Bruce Lee taking on the Japanese school in Chinese Connection

    Jet Li's version of that scene in Fist of Legend

    Jackie Chan vs. the Axe Gang in Drunken Master

    Stephen Chow at the end of Kung Fu Hustle (very comical)

    Neo vs. a plethora of Mr. Smiths in the 2nd Matrix movie (too much CGI)

    I think Tony Jaa has upped the ante and topped them all with the joint breaking scene in The Protector -- that scene still makes me wince -- and the sound effects were particularly wicked and just added to the brutality, much like the sounds of the baseball bats did in the scene in Casino where Joe Pesci and his brother got whacked.

    What's your favorite 1 vs. many scene?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Li Kao View Post
    What's your favorite 1 vs. many scene?
    Jet versus the cops in Kiss of the Dragon. Not so much for the fight itself, but for the way he walks in, looks at all of them, and then just accepts the fact that he's gotta fight 'em.
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    Greetings,

    I never saw that clip before. What I liked about it was that the actor knows how to throw a spinning hook kick. That kick has been taught incorrectly in this country for over 25 years.

    I have never seen Old Boy. Sounds very interesting.

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    the guy is an excellent kicker. my god. but the fight scene sucked compared to this!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1JrRY3Oow the old boy fight scene.

    watch out it has some graphic... er teeth getting ripped out and violence. you will like it mickey.

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    Yeah, it is not even close to the same but there a some similarities. The thing is that I just "felt" it may have been the inspiration. Sometimes you have to go with you gut feeling

    It is not a great scene but on the other hand it was great for that kind of a low budget campiness. And that guy is one hell of a kicker.
    "For someone who's a Shaolin monk, your kung fu's really lousy!"
    "What, you're dead? You die easy!"
    "Hold on now. I said I would forget your doings, but I didn't promise to spare your life. Take his head."
    “I don’t usually smoke this brand, but I’ll do it for you.”
    "When all this is over, Tan Hai Chi, I will kick your head off and put it on my brother's grave!
    "I regard hardships as part of my training. I don't need to relax."

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    As for '1 vs. many' fights, there are too many to name for me. Kuan Tai at the end of Killer Constable, Leung kar yan in The victim, Thundering Mantis, and Shanghai 13, Jimmy Lee in Rebellious Reign, Gordon Liu in Return to the 36th Chamber, and of course Tony Jaa.
    "For someone who's a Shaolin monk, your kung fu's really lousy!"
    "What, you're dead? You die easy!"
    "Hold on now. I said I would forget your doings, but I didn't promise to spare your life. Take his head."
    “I don’t usually smoke this brand, but I’ll do it for you.”
    "When all this is over, Tan Hai Chi, I will kick your head off and put it on my brother's grave!
    "I regard hardships as part of my training. I don't need to relax."

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    YouTube

    I didn't make it through jethro's clip. Been there, done that. And I've seen Old Boy. But good ol' Youtube, surf around and I ended up here. Man, if my splits were that tight, I'd get a chorus line of women in red silks behind me too.
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