The "Hakutsuru" Question?

[Mufahok]

Since the name “Ruan Dong” has been mentioned frequently in this forum, thought it might be appropriate to post a little something by him.

This is a truncated clip showing the opening movements from his long MingHe form; this form is made up of movements from several old MingHe forms with a touch of “Wushu” added.

Thanks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izkS8K0kc_A

[Mufahok]

Just curious about this;

To you, what is White Crane?

Or what do you normally associate with White Crane Boxing?

Thanks.

[Mufahok]

Here's another clip:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxD29u5fYy0

This is 5 Ancestors' Sanchin.

Thanks.

[Mufahok]

Got here 2 clips of the same form.

First is Fuzhou MingHe Babulien or 8 Linked Steps. This is the “old” version done mostly by the Singapore Fuzhou MingHe group. Incidentally, this is the same form found in Ruan Dong’s recently issued DVD.

The 2nd clip is Karate’s “Happoren” which is, essentially, Kanji for “Babulien”.

Same form? You tell me.

Thanks.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjgDec0Fqfc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV1jD7_0WRw

[shantung]

The "Happoren" only looks like a bit like the MingHe BaibuLien.
One or three movements....

I know a "Happoren" that looks like more than the Minghe BaibuLien.
It is teaching by Hanshi Patrick McCarthy,8.Dan Koryu Uchinadi (Karate) He is standing in the back of your little clip. His "Happoren" comes from Jin Jingfu sifu, and looks more than the Baibulien Form.

regards
shantung

[Mufahok]

Hi Shantung,

Yes I do have McCarthy’s Babulien clip.

In fact, I have 7 different versions of this form done by various groups; White Crane and Karate. One feature a very old Fuzhou Master (mainland) doing a very raw version of BBL which looks almost exactly like the clip I posted.

I would love to post them for public viewing but these are given by private collectors and friends for my study. The original owners are not comfortable with public viewing.

Have you seen Karate “Nipapo”?

I got a clip with a Japanese Karate Master performing this and it quite obvious that MingHe is the source.

Thanks.

ps Are you a Crane stylist ?

[shantung]

Hi Mufahok,

No I am sorry, but I am not a crane stylist.
Starting "Martial Arts" with Lam Sao Lim, over a Northern Family Style praying mantis Style now to Kenju-ryu Kempo-Jutsu.

But I have a deep interest in the crane styles. So I learned Nepai, Happoren and Hakutsuru from Hanshi McCarthy, and I am always looking for the oldest form from the source.

I have seen many versions of Nipaipo. McCarthy Sensei told me ones that Nipaipo is Mabuni Senseis Version of Nepai...

What a shame that you can not share the "files", I think I would love MingHe 28 Steps....

Regards
Shantung

[Mufahok]

Shantung,

I’ll see what I can do about posting “ErshiBa” or “28 Steps”.

Got a few in my collection and I think the best bet is to talk to Sifu Eric Ling about posting the one he gave me.

In the meantime, enjoy this one:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUy3ntWztJk



This is from Shaking Crane and I think the back hand slapping technique talked about in the earlier post can be seen repeatedly here.

Thanks.

[shantung]

Dear Mufahok

Thank you for sharing the "Shaking Crane" , great stuff.


regards
Shantung