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    The Variety report

    Same story - Kingdom beats Sarah Marshall - but we'll see what next week brings...

    'Kingdom' fights to top of box office
    'Sarah' settles for second
    By PAMELA MCCLINTOCK

    Lionsgate and the Weinstein Co.’s Jet Li-Jackie Chan starrer “Forbidden Kingdom” was the surprise black-belt master of the weekend box office, beating out Universal’s Judd Apatow romantic comedy “Forgetting Sarah Marshall.”
    “Forbidden Kingdom,” produced by Casey Silver, grossed an estimated $20.9 million as it opened in 3,151 theaters on the strength of its star billing and friendly PG-13 rating. It’s the first time Chan and Li have appeared together on the bigscreen.

    The heavily marketed and R-rated “Sarah Marshall” grossed an estimated $17.3 million from 2,798 runs to place No. 2, according to Rentrak.

    Perf is a mixed bag for Apatow. “Sarah Marshall” opened better than the previous two comedies coming out of the Apatow camp, “Drillbit Taylor” ($10.3 million) and “Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story” ( $4.2 million), but fell short of the openings of “Superbad” ($33 million), “Knocked Up” ($30.7 million) and “The 40-Year-Old Virgin” ($21.4 million).

    Combined, “Forbidden Kingdom” and “Sarah Marshall” were a shot in the arm for the sluggish box office, which has been consistently running behind 2007 levels. Weekend grosses were up 9.1% over the same frame last year, when “Disturbia” led in its second weekend with $13 million and “Fracture” opened to only $11 million.

    Sony holdover “Prom Night” came in No. 3 for the weekend, declining 56% in its second sesh to an estimated $9.1 million from 2,700 runs for a cume of $32.6 million in the horror pic’s first 10 days.

    Jon Avnet’s Al Pacino starrer “88 Minutes” -- the weekend’s other new wide release -- came in No. 4, grossing $6.8 million from 2,168 locations. Distributed domestically by Sony, the poorly reviewed film has already played overseas.

    Ben Stein’s documentary “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” made the top 10 chart at No. 9, grossing $3.1 million from 1,052 runs for a per- location average of $2,997 after being heavily marketed to conservative religious auds. Docu examines what it says is the attempt of science to suppress the discussion and teaching of intelligent design.

    Opening in only 102 locations, Weinstein Co.’s Morgan Spurlock docu “Where in the World Is Osama Bin Laden?” grossed an estimated $143,299 for a tepid per-screen average of $1,405.

    Younger males turned out in droves for “Forbidden Kingdom.” Of the aud, 58% were males, while 54% were under the age of 25.

    “Forbidden Kingdom” revolves around a teenager (Michael Angarano), who travels back to ancient China and joins up with a band of martial arts warriors to save the legendary Monkey King.

    “It was a stroke of genius to pair Jackie Chan and Jet Li,” said Lionsgate prexy of distribution Steve Rothenberg. “Those are exactly the numbers we were striving for. We wanted to get the older martial arts crowd, but we also wanted the teenagers.”

    “Forbidden Kingdom” marks the eighth film in a row that Lionsgate has opened to No.1 or No. 2. Lionsgate and TWC are partners on the film, which was financed by Relativity Media. Lionsgate is domestic distrib, while TWC, through its Asian Film Fund, is distributing in some overseas territories.

    TWC topper Harvey Weinstein said he believes the film will tap into the family market. “It’s really a four-quadrant movie,” he said.

    “Forbidden Kingdom” earned an A- CinemaScore, while “Sarah Marshall” earned a B.

    Well-reviewed “Sarah Marshall” played slightly younger and slightly female. Of the aud, 53% were women, while 56% were under the age of 30.

    U said it was a terrific start, considering the time of year, and that the film cost only $30 million to produce. Studio predicted the film will have strong legs, although competition could get fierce as the box office moves into summer on May 2, not to mention that U opens Tina Fey-Amy Poehler laffer “Baby Mama” next weekend.

    Comedy didn’t have the advantage of a particularly well-known cast, or director. Nicholas Stoller directed, while Jason Segel wrote and starred. Both are members of Apatow’s troupe.

    “I think this is a great result, considering how bad the market has been,” said Universal prexy of domestic distribution Nikki Rocco. “Comedy works, and I think people know the Judd Apatow brand, and his films always have a great multiple. This is in that category.”

    U prexy of marketing and distribution Adam Fogelson concurred, saying he expects the pic to do four times its opening gross, meaning around $70 million, if not more.

    Last summer, U’s “Knocked Up” grossed $148.8 million domestically, while Sony’s “Superbad” cumed $121.5 million. In 2005, Apatow burst on the scene with “The 40-Year-Old Virgin,” which grossed $109.4 million. (Apatow directed “Knocked Up” and “Virgin.”)

    The prolific Apatow is involved with two upcoming summer films, the Adam Sandler starrer “You Don’t Mess With the Zohan,” which he wrote and produced, and “Pineapple Express,” which he produced.

    “Sarah Marshall” was originally set to open May 30, but U moved up the release, in part to get out of the way of “Sex and the City,” which opens the same day. Studio’s “Baby Mama” was always set to open April 25.

    While holdover “Prom Night” stood up well against the new competish, Fox Searchlight and New Regency’s R-rated cop actioner “Street Kings” took a steep 68% decline its second sesh to place No. 7. Keanu Reeves-Forest Whitaker starrer grossed an estimated $4 million from 2,469 runs for a cume of $19.9 million. Big Fox is distributing the film.

    Fox senior VP of distribution Bert Livingston said he wasn’t sure why itdropped, particularly since the film ranked No. 1 during the week, ahead of “Prom Night.” He said other titles, including “88 Minutes,” may have taken business away.

    Smaller fare

    On the specialty side, Overture’s “The Visitor” nabbed one of the best per-screen averages of the weekend as it expanded in its second sesh. Film grossed an estimated $163,000 from 18 theaters for a per-screen average of $9,056 and a cume of $280,000.

    Searchlight’s docu “Young at Heart” grossed an estimated $144,703 from 33 runs in its second weekend for a per-location average of $4,385 and a cume of $225,617.

    Paramount Classics’ Rolling Stones docu “Shine a Light,” directed by Martin Scorsese, grossed an estimated $581,000 from 220 runs for a per- screen average of $2,541 and a cume of $3.8 million in the film’s third frame.

    MGM’s “Pathology” grossed an estimated $50,000 from 46 runs for a per-site average of $1,087.
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    wow has some real competition there. I mean come on a movie of paint drying could hold the top. Not that I'm saying forbidden is bad, just not much out there at the moment.

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    I'm just ttt-ing this to keep publicity up

    I'm very serious about supporting this film. I'm always serious about supporting major martial arts films that have breakthrough potential. Next week, I'll be pushing Mamet's Redbelt. Of course, my heart of hearts is with FK. If we want to see the martial arts film industry rekindle, we have to support films at the box office.

    As for the competition, Sarah Marshall was heavily marketed and boasts good pedigree. Producer Judd Apatow was behind Superbad, Knocked Up and The 40-Year-Old Virgin. Starring Jason Segel, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis, and raking in $17.7 mill, that's a sconce better than paint drying.

    I think this review was at the same press conference I was at - again, I'll have that written up soon.

    ‘Forbidden Kingdom’ didn’t originate as Li-Chan vehicle

    SAN FRANCISCO (Map, News) - Jet Li and Jackie Chan have long been considered two of the finest martial artists to commit their ultraphysical, impossibly graceful stunt work to film. It only makes sense, then, that someone would have had the bright idea of casting them together before now in an action epic that would put all others to shame. Right?

    Well, yes, except it didn’t happen until director Rob Minkoff (“The Lion King”) and screenwriter John Fusco (“Young Guns”) invited the pair to star in “The Forbidden Kingdom,” a playful, everything-plus-the-kitchen-sink affair in which Li and Chan play mysterious warriors on a quest to rescue the immortal Monkey King.

    If that sounds just a tad silly, it is — deliberately so — but Fusco’s story, which began as a bedtime tale he concocted for his 11-year-old son, is also an unabashed love letter to the martial-arts culture that has fascinated Fusco ever since his own boyhood.

    “My father was a Korean War veteran, and he picked up this secret form of self-defense there,” says Fusco. “I always begged him, ‘Tell me moves!’ He saw that I was really passionate about it, so I started taking classes at the Academy of Korean Martial Arts in Connecticut when I was 12 years old. It changed my life, and I started reading everything I could find about martial arts and Eastern culture.

    “It’s important to remember that this movie wasn’t intended as a Jet-Jackie production. It began as a story that was important to me, that reflected my love for the martial arts and martial-arts cinema.”

    Like Fusco, who began studying Shaolin kung-fu eight years ago near his home in Vermont and later in China, Minkoff has spent the last decade living in the United States and Beijing. A rabid fan of martial-arts cinema since childhood, the Palo Alto native jumped at the chance to shoot a film in Heng Dian, China, co-starring two of the genre’s most celebrated masters. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t have misgivings.

    “Jet and Jackie are completely different — one is dark, one is light,” he says. “Jackie is the life of the party, Jet is a devout Buddhist. So there is a really strong contrast there. Plus, the movie has an incredible amount of very stylized, very poetic dialogue, and Jackie is more of a silent comedian in the mold of Buster Keaton. It’s the most English language either of them had ever done.

    “We knew it could be great or it could blow up in our faces. Ultimately, we really wanted them to share the movie as equals, and for there to be a balance of their personalities reflected in John’s script. I think they did an amazing job connecting with his words and with each other in a way that is really convincing.”

    Regardless of their differences in temperament, Chan was impressed by Li’s ability to meet the physical demands of each exhaustively choreographed scene with ease. While Chan admits that most fight sequences require 10 to 15 takes, his high-flying contests with Li took only three to five.

    “All I did was tell Jet I’d do these few strokes and let him know my rhythm,” the “Rush Hour” star says. “He would pick up my rhythm and just react with his strokes. That kind of chemistry is rare."
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    Well Gene I did my duty and supported it last night

    I thought it was great even though it was predictable and a little cliche at times but very fun to watch.

    Great action and the landscapes were awesome. If im not mistaken that village the kid wakes up in is the same one as in Jet Li's Fearless.......beautiful place.

    The part when Jackie tries to make it rain was hysterical!

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    fearless is good and with a catchy song from jay jou.

    I wish this movie has some music or a catchy song, too.

    with jc and jl 2 kung fu superstars, I can't really ask for more.

    I know the story of huo yuan jia and saw many movies about him already.

    I wish they develop the other character more before ending with a near death match. well it was meant to kill and not friendly match any more.

    monkey king story would attract a lot of crowds already.

    I heard that li bing bing and crystal liu do not get along well.

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    but over all, much enjoyed.

    good to know, it did well in the ticket box, too.

    hope that it has sequel.

    me and my brothers are all big fans of the monkey king.

    we want more stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    fearless is good and with a catchy song from jay jou.

    I wish this movie has some music or a catchy song, too.

    with jc and jl 2 kung fu superstars, I can't really ask for more.

    I know the story of huo yuan jia and saw many movies about him already.

    I wish they develop the other character more before ending with a near death match. well it was meant to kill and not friendly match any more.

    monkey king story would attract a lot of crowds already.

    I heard that li bing bing and crystal liu do not get along well.

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    but over all, much enjoyed.

    good to know, it did well in the ticket box, too.

    hope that it has sequel.

    me and my brothers are all big fans of the monkey king.

    we want more stories.

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    Yes, I would enjoy a movie based entirely on the monkey king. give me more monkey king!
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    As for the competition, Sarah Marshall was heavily marketed and boasts good pedigree. Producer Judd Apatow was behind Superbad, Knocked Up and The 40-Year-Old Virgin. Starring Jason Segel, Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis, and raking in $17.7 mill, that's a sconce better than paint drying.
    Still your not going to convince me that there are good movies out there now.

    Of those mentioned above I liked superbad. But Sarah Marshall movie has no appeal what so ever for me. Not my type of movie. Still not much out there at this time. And yes I would rather watch paint dry than Sarah marshall movie

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    handily exceeding industry forecasts.

    Jackie Chan, Jet Li conquer N. American box office
    Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:35pm EDT

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "The Forbidden Kingdom," a first collaboration between action heroes Jackie Chan and Jet Li, kicked its rivals at the weekend box office in North America, also becoming the first martial arts movie to open at No. 1 in almost four years.

    According to studio estimates issued Sunday, "The Forbidden Kingdom" sold $20.9 million worth of tickets during its first three days, handily exceeding industry forecasts.

    Chan and Li play mentors to a modern-day kung fu devotee (played by Michael Angarano) who has been hurled back in time to rural China. It was directed by Rob Minkoff, best known for making the "Stuart Little" family movies. Most critics seemed to like it.

    Other debuts included the raunchy romantic comedy "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" at No. 2 with $17.3 million, the Al Pacino thriller "88 Minutes" at No. 4 with $6.8 million, and the Ben Stein documentary "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" at No. 9 with about $3.2 million.

    Last weekend's top film, the teen horror "Prom Night," slipped to No. 3 with $9.1 million, taking its 10-day haul to $32.6 million. It was released by Screen Gems, a low-budget division of Sony Corp.

    "The Forbidden Kingdom" was released domestically by Lionsgate, a unit of Lions Gate Entertainment Corp, with some financial involvement from the closely held Weinstein Co. Lionsgate had hoped for an opening in the mid- to high-teen millions, said Steve Rothenberg, the studio's president of domestic theatrical distribution.

    Li, who turns 45 on Saturday, starred in the last "chopsocky" chart-topper, "Hero," which opened to $18 million in August 2004. His most recent effort "War," a thriller co-starring Jason Statham, opened at No. 2 last August, with $9.8 million.

    Chan, 54, topped the chart last August with the buddy comedy "Rush Hour 3," which opened to $49.1 million, but ended up underperforming its predecessors.

    MALE NUDITY

    "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" stars Jason Segel, who also wrote the script, as a guy who is dumped by his girlfriend (Kristen Bell). In a rarity for Hollywood films, the critically acclaimed release depicts full-frontal male nudity.

    The film's distributor, Universal Pictures, said the $30 million film opened at the higher end of expectations, and women made up just over half of the audience. It was produced by Judd Apatow, the director of such films as "The 40-Year-Old Virgin" and "Knocked Up." Universal is a unit of General Electric Co's NBC Universal.

    "88 Minutes," filmed two years ago and already released on DVD in some countries, was almost unanimously ripped by critics. Daily Variety said it was "easily" the worst of Pacino's storied career. It was released by Sony's TriStar Pictures, which paid $5 million for North American rights and expected to make money on the deal.

    "Expelled" makes a claim for "intelligent design," a controversial contention that some biological structures are so complex they could not have appeared merely through evolution. It was distributed by Rocky Mountain Pictures, a private firm based in Salt Lake City, Utah.
    It's the male nudity that's turning you off, isn't it Dragonzbane76? I feel ya, bro, I feel ya. Two words: Kristen & Mila Better than drying paint, I'm tellin' ya.
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    It's the male nudity that's turning you off, isn't it Dragonzbane76? I feel ya, bro, I feel ya. Two words: Kristen & Mila Better than drying paint, I'm tellin' ya.
    haha yeah that's it.

    i have no qwam about the women but it takes more than a nice looking A$$ to make a movie. well unless where talking porn then that's different.

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    Bested by babies and stoners

    Well, it was fun to be America's #1 movie while it lasted. I had a feeling that Baby Mama was going to take the box office this weekend. I was tempted to post my prediction, but didn't want to jinx anything.

    'Baby Mama,' 'Harold & Kumar' Yuk It Up
    by Brandon Gray
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    Two new comedies perked up the weekend box office to medium range business by late April standards and a sizable increase over the same time last year.

    Baby Mama knocked out a solid estimated $18.3 million on approximately 2,900 screens at 2,543 theaters. The $30 million comedy opened slightly higher than last weekend's heavily promoted Forgetting Sarah Marshall, appealing with the kind of pregnancy and parenting humor that has worked in past hits from Parenthood to Knocked Up. According to distributor Universal Pictures' exit polling, 68 percent of Baby Mama's audience was female and 55 percent was over 25 years old.

    Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay inhaled an estimated $14.7 million on around 2,900 screens at 2,510 theaters. The $12 million marijuana-steeped comedy more than doubled the start of its 2004 predecessor, Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle, and will soon exceed that movie's $18.3 million final gross. After its modest theatrical run, the first movie expanded its audience, leading to greater box office for the sequel, which promised a similar trip in its marketing.

    Also opening, Deception flopped with an estimated $2.2 million at 2,001 venues. Erotic thrillers disappoint more often than not, but this picture was at the bottom of the subgenre.

    Last weekend's top two, The Forbidden Kingdom and Forgetting Sarah Marshall, retreated within typical ranges. Forbidden Kingdom deflated 47 percent to an estimated $11.2 million for $38.3 million in ten days, while Sarah Marshall subsided 38 percent to an estimated $11 million for $35.1 million in ten days. 88 Minutes ticked off 48 percent, and Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed devolved a steep 54 percent.

    Nim's Island logged the smallest drop among nationwide releases, down 20 percent to an estimated $4.5 million for $39 million in 24 days. 21 and Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who! also held well, and the latter is still the highest grossing picture of the year by a country mile with $147.9 million in 45 days. Its reign should be short-lived as the summer movie season kicks off next weekend with the release of Iron Man and the hope of a revitalized box office after a rough past few months.
    As of this posting, FK is at $41,517,029 worldwide after two weeks (according to the aforementioned boxofficemojo). Never Back Down, the other major movie martial release for 2008 is at $33,614,274 worldwide after 6 weeks, with only a $8,603,195 opening weekend. So FK has the title for the 2008 top martial arts flick so far. I don't have high hopes for RedBelt, mostly because I can't imagine MMA fans being that into David Mamet and Tim Allen. I think it may be a very promising film, but the best it can hope for is trickle over from sold out showings of Iron Man. I feel the next real contender is Kung Fu Panda - that goes us against You Don't Mess with Zohan (Adam Sandler as a Israeli commando going underground as a hair stylist).
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    Well I saw it yesterday afternoon. Went to matinee cause I am cheap

    It was pretty good and very well done. One thing that is still causing confusion to me though. How is it that they can speak english in China back in the day? Prior to westerners coming there.
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    highest opening day box office record in China this year

    I'm delighted to see FK did so well in China. Jet is on a major roll there, eh?

    "Forbidden Kingdom" rakes in 16 mln yuan in China's 1st day release
    www.chinaview.cn 2008-04-26 20:38:18

    BEIJING, April 26 (Xinhua) -- Martial arts adventure "The Forbidden Kingdom" raked in 16 million yuan (2.3 million U.S. dollars) in Chinese mainland within 24 hours after its Thursday debut, the Beijing News reported on Saturday.

    The movie sets the highest opening day box office record in China this year, according to the newspaper.

    The movie, featuring two of China most well-known kung fu stars Jet Li and Jackie Chan, tells the story of a modern American teenager hurtled back in time to ancient China, where he is charged with a task to free the fabled warrior -- the Monkey King -- with the help of kung fu masters played by Chan and Li.

    China's two major box office blockbusters this year, the military drama "Assembly" directed by Chinese director Feng Xiaogang, and the war epic "Warlords" by Hong Kong director Peter Chan raked in 15 million yuan and 10 million yuan respectively on their first day of release.

    A record 1,228 copies of "The Forbidden Kingdom" -- 683 film copies and 545 digital copies -- were ordered for its mainland screening.

    "It is reasonable to assume box office income will top 100 million in first week," said Wu Hehu, vice president of the Shanghai United Cinema Line, which operates a chain of cinemas around China.

    "The cinema line showed over 30 movies around the country on April 24, and brought in 1.48 million yuan in total. 'The Forbidden Kingdom' alone contributed 1.37 million yuan," Wu said.

    The kung fu adventure also brought in 1.03 million HK dollars in its first day public release in Hong Kong on the same day, while the Happy Funeral, a local-made light comedy ranking No.2 inbox office income in Hong Kong on Thursday, brought in only 270,000 HK dollars.
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    I'm glad that FK at least hit the number one spot its opening weekend, anyway. Truthfully, I did not expect it to hold onto that spot beyond the first week. Martial arts-themed films, and Asian films that hit number one in the U.S. rarely, if at all, stay at that spot more than one week, and tend to drop noticeably after that. But it's a good film after a relative dry spell for m.a. movies in the U.S. theaters.

    I did go to see the new Harold and Kumar film; I have to admit, it was pretty funny.

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    Some more interviews

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