Another youtube video.

[AmanuJRY]

WC/light sparring

Happened on this one, hadn't seen it posted here, thought it was interesting...any thoughts?

Anyone know these guys?

[sihing]

Don't know who the guys are..

One thing I've learned over the years is not to stay in wrist range, and comitting to an attack at times is better than sitting in no man's land. These guys are in no man's land and staying there is not something to do. VEry stiff in there arms and chasing limbs is the norm here.

Look like beginners. Gotta give them credit though for posting it up..

J

[Ernie]

stop it ,,,,, don't touch me ,,,, you might mess up my hair ,,,,,,,

[stricker]

i didnt watch the whole thing got a bit bored. one thing i dont get is the enter the dragon crossed wrists thing. makes for a cool bit of film but i dont see it as fight applicable at all or even developing good attributes or skill. its not facing and pressureing the centre and its not taking the angle (or blindside take the back whatever)

bit tkd point sparring style too with the kicks and that.

[_William_]

Too darn tentative! Light touch sparring reinforces the "you punch I block, I punch, you block" mentality. No timing or initiative being built here.

[Faruq]

You guys have probably seen this one already, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4Jq6H9pEQ

[Chief Fox]

That's the smallest kwoon I've ever seen.

[AmanuJRY]

That's the smallest kwoon I've ever seen.

That's what I was thinking.


I'm not wholly impressed with the slap-boxing game either, but as long as it isn't a 'replacement' or 'alternative' to more hard contact sparring. If they're just messin' around before the real workout, I'd let it slide....but then again, if they had the video set up to tape them slap-boxing (light sparring), where's the hard sparring video?

Some of their 'constructive criticism' in the comments make it even better.

You guys have probably seen this one already, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4Jq6H9pEQ

I posted that one on a different thread, but it wasn't really discussed.

To me, it looks like a practiced WC'er throwing down with a buddy who can kinda kick like MT/kicboxing (but is obviously not well practiced or is throwing things all sloppy). It reminds me of working WC techs against a mostly compliant (with a little 'aliveness') partner.

[AmanuJRY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFfhx...elated&search=

Had to post this one...anyone practice this?

[Whiplash]

Here are two videos someone posted to Youtube from the school I train at, under Sifu Cheng (Lo Man Kam).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85sGwakiDcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptxaEdDTMcM


(i'm not in them)


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[Matrix]

Youtube is becoming quite the phenomenon that's for sure.
I must admit that for every decent clip I see there are many more bad clips. Like many things in life the paretto principle prevails. Of course, this is all subjective.

[planetwc]

That drill would appear to build bad habits even FASTER.

1. No sticking hands. Looks like Kenpo hands.
2. Flailing with no intention or penetration. Looks like bad Kenpo Hands.
3. Leaning the head "out of the way", leading to "afraid to be hit" and bad posture.
4. They are out of contact range to HIT each other.

A boxer or Muay Thai guy will eat you alive with that. He will enter you and pound you out. Somehow I don't think Lo Man Kam would approve of this.

Here is a much better speed drill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QT34CrQOzk&

Note the difference in posture, structure, intent and drive.

Here are two videos someone posted to Youtube from the school I train at, under Sifu Cheng (Lo Man Kam).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85sGwakiDcQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptxaEdDTMcM


(i'm not in them)


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[planetwc]

Try this one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HITt_ButfRY&NR

That second clip you posted was just awful.

Youtube is becoming quite the phenomenon that's for sure.
I must admit that for every decent clip I see there are many more bad clips. Like many things in life the paretto principle prevails. Of course, this is all subjective.

[Whiplash]

A boxer or Muay Thai guy will eat you alive with that. He will enter you and pound you out. Somehow I don't think Lo Man Kam would approve of this.

Really? dunno about that ...

[Mr Punch]

... Somehow I don't think Lo Man Kam would approve of this.

I thought exactly the same thing.

Really? dunno about that ...

You showed pictures of Lo Man Kam with Sifu Cheng, doing something completely different to the video you posted. How does this show Sifu Lo's approval of that training method?

The people I've trained with from Sifu Lo's line have been controlled, careful, and structurally very sound. They very rarely lose their head position for just one thing.