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    not responsible for the rectification crisis

    There's a gallery of five photos if you follow the link. I didn't bother to cut&paste them here.
    Shaolin Temple denies responsibility for poor tourism order
    (Xinhua)
    16:59, February 02, 2012

    Edited and translated by Ye Xin, People's Daily Online

    The National Commission on scenic quality rating has recently ordered Henan Songshan Shaolin Scenic Area to rectify and improve its environment and tourism orders within a time limit. Shaolin Temple confirmed the above information, but claimed that the temple is not responsible for the rectification crisis.

    The Songshan Shaolin Scenic Area, located in Dengfeng county, central China's Henan Province, has a total area of 2.8 square kilometers. Since 2009, China Travel International Investment Hong Kong Limited has been running the scenic area. However, as a venue for religious activities, the assets of Shaolin Temple are not within the company's scope of business.
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    more on the rating

    Shaolin Temple visitors drop after rating warning
    Updated: 2012-02-06 16:17
    (chinadaily.com.cn)

    The number of visitors to the famous Shaolin Temple during Spring Festival decreased by 41.8 percent from the same period last year, Dahe newspaper reported.

    The decline of the popular tourist attraction in Henan province over the seven day holiday period comes after it was warned it could lose its top rating for poor service and maintenance.

    The scenic spot received some 61,000 people during the holiday. The ticket revenue fell 13.7 percent from the same period last year.

    The National Quality Ranking Committee of Tourist Attractions requires the temple to complete an overhaul by the end of March 2012. It will lose its top rating if it fails to meet the criteria by that date.
    A 41.8% decrease is pretty significant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    A 41.8% decrease is pretty significant.
    Yeah, but a little more peaceful without a lot of tourists around. Makes you wonder what they will do to get that rating back. Maybe the rollercoaster simulator will come back.

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    Other than lacking Business 101 skills, there is still too much nandu performance type criteria along with too frequent changes in all types of forms. Nothing is traditional anymore and the packaging of Shaolin is becoming too absurd e.g. Shaolin Haemorrhoid Cream, Shaolin Handy WIpes, Shaolin Baking Powder, and people may becomming too weird with the propaganda of government mandated tools to keep people spending money as opposed to training good people with bona fide interest.

    It is still good source of training for the present competition world market in wushu so they might as well milk it while the illusion is there. The coming economic depression will figure into how this will affect various sectors of the market!

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    The rollercoaster simulator!

    mawali, I doubt the influx of modern wushu at Shaolin has much to do with the drop. Most of the tourists that visit Shaolin are just tourists. They aren't there to train. The don't study kung fu at all. There's a higher percentage of foreigners that go to train kung fu, but the bulk of the tourists are from China and they're just there to be tourists.
    Here's our student and tourist stats from our 2011 Shaolin Special.
    Number of Registered Martial Arts Schools: 50
    Population of Full-Time Martial Arts Students: 60,000
    Number of Domestic Tourists per year: 1,400,000
    Number of Foreign Tourists per year: 10,000
    Number of Foreigners training in Dengfeng per year: 3000
    Number of Foreigners training in Dengfeng for more than one month per year: 1000
    There's a six photo gallery if you follow the link below.
    Shaolin Temple visitor number drops in C China's Henan Province
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    13:54, February 07, 2012
    Staff members of the Shaolin Temple are left idle outside a scenic spot at the Shaolin Temple in Dengfeng City, central China's Henan Province, Jan. 31, 2012. The number of visitors to the famous Shaolin Temple during the Spring Festival starting from Jan. 23 decreased by 41.8 percent and the ticket revenue fell 13.7 percent from the same period of last year, according to statistics from the Dengfeng Tourism Administration. The decline of the popular tourist attraction in Henan Province in the seven day holiday period came after it was warned it could lose its top rating for poor services and maintenance. The National Quality Ranking Committee of Tourist Attractions requires the temple to complete an overhaul by the end of March 2012. (Xinhua/Wang Song)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mawali View Post
    Other than lacking Business 101 skills, there is still too much nandu performance type criteria along with too frequent changes in all types of forms. Nothing is traditional anymore and the packaging of Shaolin is becoming too absurd e.g. Shaolin Haemorrhoid Cream, Shaolin Handy WIpes, Shaolin Baking Powder, and people may becomming too weird with the propaganda of government mandated tools to keep people spending money as opposed to training good people with bona fide interest.

    It is still good source of training for the present competition world market in wushu so they might as well milk it while the illusion is there. The coming economic depression will figure into how this will affect various sectors of the market!
    Have you been there to know this?

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    My former teachers, who were born in China have stated that this has been going on for some time, e.g. trademark borrowing, tourist 'traps', school rivalry on who has the 'better' teachers based on loyalty to the Party within the capitalist agenda, etc.

    Shaolin has some excellent teachers but they are the exception! One of my earlier teachers claimed to have studied at Shaolin and when he left he stated that the change was drastic when he returned some years later.

    As a former competitor, it is well known that many so called tradtional forms has been altered for the sake of gymnastic nandu and performance criteria!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawali View Post
    My former teachers, who were born in China have stated that this has been going on for some time, e.g. trademark borrowing, tourist 'traps', school rivalry on who has the 'better' teachers based on loyalty to the Party within the capitalist agenda, etc.

    Shaolin has some excellent teachers but they are the exception! One of my earlier teachers claimed to have studied at Shaolin and when he left he stated that the change was drastic when he returned some years later.

    As a former competitor, it is well known that many so called tradtional forms has been altered for the sake of gymnastic nandu and performance criteria!
    I have trained there a few times and I can tell you that traditional is very much alive and well in Shaolin, without nandu mixed in. Performance is for performance, when traditional is done it is not done in that manner. Before you make statements like the one you made earlier, you should be absolutely certain of what you are saying. Too many people make assumptions about Shaolin whithout ever having been there to know what is really going on. Not trying to dis your former teachers or anything, but a lot of people will say things about Shaolin in order to make themselves or their own schools look better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sha0lin1 View Post
    Too many people make assumptions about Shaolin whithout ever having been there to know what is really going on. Not trying to dis your former teachers or anything, but a lot of people will say things about Shaolin in order to make themselves or their own schools look better.
    No problem! My teachers were of the highest regard without having to disparage anyone. Thought, word and deed are on its own merit.

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    Not sure what the point of this article is...

    ...but the first comment by 'cheer' certainly sounds like our bawang.
    Shaolin Temple to expand overseas
    Updated: 2012-03-06 14:31
    By Zhao Yinan (chinadaily.com.cn)

    China's most renowned Buddhist attraction, Shaolin Temple, is planning to open overseas branches "when conditions mature", according to the director of the temple.

    Shi Yongxin, current abbot of the Shaolin Temple and deputy chairman of China's Buddhism Association, said that more than 1,000 overseas visitors per year stay at the temple to practice Buddhism and Chinese kungfu, and the number has been on the rise.

    Another 200,000 foreign believers come to Shaolin every year for sightseeing, said Shi, who is also a deputy to the National People's Congress.
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    The abbot at the Great Hall of People

    I have a new interview with the Abbot in our next issue. It's our Shaolin Special 2012.
    Shaolin abbot proposes heritage protection
    Updated: 2012-03-14 07:03
    (Xinhua)

    BEIJING - The abbot of the Shaolin Temple has proposed protecting Buddhist heritage, but declined to comment on the fate of his commercially-run temple while attending the ongoing annual parliamentary session in Beijing.

    Shi Yongxin, the high-profile monastery head of the birthplace of kungfu and a deputy to the National People's Congress (NPC), has shown reticence during this year's national meeting, shunning throngs of microphone-wielding reporters outside the Great Hall of People and their sporadic ambushes along his route.

    Shi's proposals this year included enhancing legal protection on Mount Songshan in Central China's Henan province, where Shaolin is seated, banning sales and contractions of Buddhist temples, opening more religious sites to the public and promoting religious medicines.

    "Some Buddhist temples in China have been sold to non-clerical people, who made profits by charging worshippers. It has hurt the feelings of Buddhist followers," said Shi.

    Shi also called for legal protection on Mount Songshan, the newly-listed world heritage site, whose natural environment is now subject to damaging overmining and rampant tourist activities.

    But Shi did not comment on Shaolin's recent failure to pass an inspection by the tourist watchdog due to flawed management.

    A national committee on tourist site assessment recently issued a circular demanding that the temple overhaul its "chaotic operation" or forfeit its rating as a five-A tourist site. The circular said the temple had been overrun by vendors and rip-off businesses.

    It was the latest scandal to hit the abbot, who has vigorously pushed the temple into movie-making and commercial kungfu shows, actions that have drawn criticism for alleged over-commercialization of the temple.
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    Monk guides

    Monks guide temple toward a new image
    Updated: 2012-03-26 07:43
    By An Baijie in Dengfeng, Henan (China Daily)

    As the old saying goes, "Change comes from within."

    It is a message that is being embraced at the Shaolin Temple, where resident monks are striving to improve the holy site's image after a storm of criticism last year.

    Since February, at least 20 monks at China's most famous Buddhist monastery have been working as free guides for tourists.

    Among them are graduates from Buddhist colleges, and each one has received two weeks of training, said Zheng Shumin, the temple's publicity director.

    "It's an honor to introduce the temple's glorious history to visitors," Yan Xin, a monk in his 20s, said on March 17.

    He had already led two groups that afternoon, during which he interpreted ancient poems engraved in stone tablets, and told stories about the many calligraphy and painting works.

    "I practice martial arts every day and keep in good physical shape, so I don't feel tired," he said.

    The free tour guide service was set up after a public relations crisis in December, when the temple was criticized by the National Tourism Association for its poor conditions and services.

    The association said its inspectors had found disorderly parking facilities, an abundance of over-bearing souvenir sellers, as well as many people dressed like monks offering fortune-telling services or products.

    After the criticism, People's Daily reported that police in Dengfeng had detained more than 63 people for violating tourism regulations, while four employees of the Shaolin Temple were dismissed. Ten tourist guides were also suspended.

    However, Zheng said that the new guide service simply extended the temple's practice of asking monks to lead groups when important figures visited or during major Buddhism events.

    Yang Chaofei, a college student who was led by Yan, said his guide had made his trip unforgettable.

    "The monks are very patient, and their introductions always enlighten me because I believe in the Buddhist religion," he said. "It was a totally different feeling compared with the guides used by most commercial tourism companies."

    Yang said the service had improved his impression of the Shaolin Temple, adding that he believes it will "shorten the distance between the monks and the public".

    Despite praise from visitors, some remained skeptical that the guide service was really free, largely due to the fact that in the past they had encountered people dressed like monks who were trying to charge fees.

    "The monks say the service is free, but I'm afraid they will charge us at the end of the tour, or try to get us to buy souvenirs," said Ren Juan, 43, who was visiting with her friends.

    "We don't want to ruin the experience by having conflicts with monks."

    A public bus driver who did not want to be identified said the number of complaints from tourists and city residents about the Shaolin Temple have greatly reduced since the warning from the tourism authorities.

    "Compared with the past, the Shaolin Temple appears to have developed a completely different image in recent months," he said. "The city government has kept a close watch for any illegal or disorderly activity."
    This seems like a good idea, but it opens the door so wide for scam artist fake monks.
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    Sort of random

    Abbot blesses German solar power development.
    Wirsol Opens Beijing Office, Plans PV Projects in China
    29 March 2012

    German solar project developer Wirsol and Chinese module manufacturer Suntech will develop large solar power stations for the Qinghai province, the two companies announced today at the opening of Wirsol Solar Technology Beijing.

    In the photovoltaic sector, the Chinese market offers a state-guaranteed feed-in tariff of 12 cents/kWh (€).

    His Holiness Shi Yongxin, from the abbot of the legendary Shaolin Temple of Henan, sanctified the new Beijing office. Guests also included the former Ambassadors Yang Chengxu, Hu Benyao and Wang Yanyi. The German General Consulate sent Dr. Peter Kreutzberger, the head of the Economic Service and the Speaker for the Environment, Energy and Climate.
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    This has been a long time coming...

    4 more photos if you follow the link.
    Shaolin Temple protects ancient pagodas
    Updated: 2012-04-16 15:17
    Shaolin Temple protects ancient pagodas

    Photo taken on March 15, 2012 shows the fences built to protect the Buddhist pagodas in the famous Shaolin Temple in Dengfeng city, central China's Henan province. As one of the recent renovation projects, fences were built between the pagodas in Shaolin Temple to protect them from damages of tourists. There are 230 pagodas in Shaolin Temple.[Photo/Xinhua]
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    4 more photos if you follow the link.
    Looks terrible. If they wanted to put up fences they could've at least chosen some better looking materials. Awful.

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