What do you cats think of the pope's comments about Islam? I don't think they are far from the true.
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What do you cats think of the pope's comments about Islam? I don't think they are far from the true.
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He is right on. I am actually starting to like this guy now, he's not afraid to say it like it is.
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Here's the story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5351988.stm (everyone apart from Royal Dragon can read it cause he is ignoring everyone!)
He was quoting a source from the 14th century in an academic lecture, so it may be that his words were taken out of context! This pope certainly doesnt mince his words!
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Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.
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I love the fact that they're protesting against accusations of violence by rioting
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The Pope and the catholic church are ones to talk or to even cast stones at anyone. The CC has been the author of so much death and destruction of other cultures that it amazes me that the CC would want to say anything. They ignored the atrocities on the jews in ww2 and have always maintained this pretentious mightier than thou attitude towards everything. take a look at the crusades in history.
the CC should not be casting any stones. they should just STFU and go about their rituals and pomp and circumstance. TWS
It makes me mad when people say I turned and ran like a scared rabbit. Maybe it was like an angry rabbit, who was going to fight in another fight, away from the first fight.
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Originally Posted by Ben Gash
I love the fact that they're protesting against accusations of violence by rioting
I like this Pope, but I also liked JPII even when I didn't agree with him.
I disagree as I don't think Islam itself is trying to preserve any era in history. You do have a some large branches of Islam that do but I think it's more about power than about being pious.They have moved past the "Dark ages", islam seeks to preserve it.
Last edited by rogue; 09-16-2006 at 04:59 PM.
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Dam nit... it made sense when it was running through my head.
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Though the part about the Qur'an instructing muslims to spread Islam by the sword is not correct, I have to say that I wouldn't be surprised if muslems did it anyway. But who's going to learn Arabic just to be able to speak intelligently on what Islamic texts really say? The biggest problem is how muslims today can't really differentiate between Islam, and the backward cultural practices of their individual countries.
Today you'll see practices like suppressing women (for example) promoted in muslim communities as Islam, when if you examine religious texts like Hadiths, you'll see that it's not endorsed by their holy books. In the days of the prophet Muhammad, women even came up to him cursing him out when their sons converted to Islam and he didn't have them beaten or killed though his disciples were chomping at the bit to do so, but calmly answered their curses politely. Do todays muslims follow his example though, no? And what do the religious texts really matter, if the muslims themselves don't follow them.
The problem is that no one really cares what Islam or the Qur'an really says, let alone being capable of learning second, third and fourth languages like the Europeans, or wanting to learn about Muslim culture. The few people that do bother to read usually read summaries rather than Islamic texts, often written by biased non-muslims. I would recommend a book written by a Muslim like "Conference of the Books: The Search for Beauty in Islam" by Khaled M Abou El Fadl instead. I mean would you trust Muslims to tell you the truth about Christianity? So why would you ask Christians what Islam was really about, right?
Other than that, if people were interested they'd have to look at both sides of the news stories, not just what's on network news. Books by MIT's Noam Chomsky have always been good for that, and Hamza Yusuf's Zaytuna Institute (www.zaytuna.org or www.alhambraproductions.com) has been pretty progressive in regards to it's Islamic teachings. But most people are content just repeating the misinformation they hear on the news, even if they've heard the truth about the issues from Muslims themselves. So why bother, right?
Last edited by Faruq; 10-07-2006 at 08:10 PM.
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