View Poll Results: Do you fight?

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  • Yes, and with hard contact

    55 82.09%
  • Yes, but little contact.

    6 8.96%
  • Yes, but its point sparring.

    2 2.99%
  • No, we only do forms/sets.

    4 5.97%
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Thread: CMAists, Do you fight?

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  1. #1
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    CMAists, Do you fight?

    The question that has been coming up lately is that 90% of CMA schools are crap in america because they don't fight. Is this true? Do you fight? Do you fight with contact? Let us know. Lets get a sense of what you do. This poll is for people in CMA schools. If you don't fight in them either don't reply or answer no.

    Post a little something too, keep this poll up on the board.
    Last edited by SifuAbel; 10-25-2006 at 09:25 AM.

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    I never "fight" but I do spar. Spar with various kinds of protective gear, with a reasonable mindset not to hurt my partner unneccesarily. All stand up, I don't know grappling so I don't mess with anything after throw, trip or knockdown.
    -Jess O

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    I had my last fight when I was 12. Since then I've ended all threats through selling wolf tickets, playing the tough role, and on the rare occasions none of that work, I'd apologize. So I've been lucky I guess, and the fact that I never look for trouble has to have gone a long way toward keeping me out of fights.
    I was on the metro earlier, deep in meditation, when a ruffian came over and started causing trouble. He started pushing me with his bag, steadily increasing the force until it became very annoying. When I turned to him, before I could ask him to stop, he immediately started hurling abuse like a scoundrel. I performed a basic chin na - carotid artery strike combination and sent him to sleep. The rest of my journey was very peaceful, and passersby hailed me as a hero - Warrior Man

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    There's no section for how I 'fight'.

    I don't fight in normal sparring situations, so the concept of hard contact, point sparring, etc. doesn't really apply. I do psychiatric interventions. These are in real world environments so there are no rules. I suggest you widen your perspective on how to apply CMA. If you're just looking at sparring, that's pretty limited.
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    I do Shuai Jiao now I just can't take all the dancing stuff. In Shuai Jiao we spar every lesson. I still practice Tai Chi and Bagua on my own for health and fitness. I love competitive push hands but there just aren't enough people doing it to take it seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    I don't fight in normal sparring situations, so the concept of hard contact, point sparring, etc. doesn't really apply. I do psychiatric interventions. These are in real world environments so there are no rules. I suggest you widen your perspective on how to apply CMA. If you're just looking at sparring, that's pretty limited.
    Gene-
    Can you give some specific examples of the types of physical altercations that occur in these situations and the specific CMA tactics and/or techniques you are using?

    What things have you found to work the best and what things, if any, have you thrown out or evolved for these situations?

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    I'll jump in for just a second, but I can't partiipate in the poll because im not a member of anyones school, however, I have worked door for a couple of places, one more upscale, the other a bit more dreggy.

    upscale place required "quiet removal" of unruly patrons. This required methods of control that I got from traditional martial arts. Generally Chin Na type stuff.

    the more dreggy joint required a little bit more oomph. Pins, holds and dial the phone stuff sometimes

    For EMS guys, they would do well to do restrain and contain drawn from wherever, I think there's a lot of Chin Na techs that are gentle but can provide the level of control required.

    same goes for Leos and other like professions. Not that they can't get useful stuff elsewhere, just saying that I think the stuff within trad materials is more than sufficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post

    I do psychiatric interventions
    Never knew that Gene!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    I don't fight in normal sparring situations, so the concept of hard contact, point sparring, etc. doesn't really apply. I do psychiatric interventions. These are in real world environments so there are no rules. I suggest you widen your perspective on how to apply CMA. If you're just looking at sparring, that's pretty limited.

    Since I can't change my poll questions, why don't you do your admin magic and add the relevant additions.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by SifuAbel View Post
    Since I can't change my poll questions, why don't you do your admin magic and add the relevant additions.

    I tried, but I can't edit your poll, only your post.

    FWIW, it's TMA guys that will also tell you that 95% of schools are crap, most likely due to more reasons than just lack of contact sparring - training methods, class length, focus of the classes, etc.
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    This poll is flawed...if 83% of the people think they are fighting with hard contact, I think some people may not understand hard contact.

    I selected hard contact because I am married to a Puerto Rican ...so it IS hard contact fighting....every night
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