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    Bak Fu Pai ( White Tiger Kung Fu )

    I am Dr Harout , a western medicine physician, live and practice medicine in Beirut, Lebanon,also I count myself fortunate and blessed that am accepted Bak Fu Pai disciple under Grandmaster Doo Wai…I visit USA on and off to learn directly from Grandmaster Doo Wai.

    Please moderators, don’t close the thread, I think I have the right to reply to all those who attacked our Teacher and Bak Fu Pai.

    I will not recall all the attacks that been posted in the previous thread…

    First of all, I’ll start from those who said GM Doo Wai is not looking where to hit, so the form is just waving hands…well I have to say to those that they don’t have good training in their styles…if you train a form for all your lifetime, wouldn’t your muscles remember where the strike go?....plus…Bak Fu Pai has the speed and ging training

    Some started to say…Oh, He is taking heavy breathing…lets see if we reach GM Doo Wai’s age, will we be able to move?

    Some said that their browser got fried from the iron forearm and iron shins clip…well you are free to believe it exists or not…but I can say that although my forearms are not as our Teacher’s forearm but its very hard and had hurt some people in friendly spar…now even my friends don’t want me to touch them.

    Some on this forum have experienced martial artists eyes…they understood that the break of coconut resting on tofu is very difficult one and need years of experience to do….well myself and my other brothers still can not do that specific break

    Some others who have posted are really insecure, narrow minded, so will not even give attention to their posts

    Some are trying to say that Bak Fu Pai and Bak Mei are the same…..no and million times no…Bak Fu Pai is Bak Fu Pai and Bak Mei is Bak Mei…they seem similar but not the same…but some who might not even recognized from main Bak Mei people still insist that Bak Fu Pai is made up from Bak Mei…well my answer to them is simple….show us an advanced break…break a coconut in mid-air from an inch..

    Many insist to see the lineage of GM Doo Wai….He is Doo Family, 6th generation family inherited Bak Fu Pai Southern Chinese Holistic Gung Fu.

    For others….you don’t like Chinese way of wearing…that’s your right but you don’t have the right to insult

    I have more to say…but lets see who will start his insecure attacks back

    At least on this forum Garry knows me in person and knows that am BFP

    Wish you all nice day
    Last edited by Dr.Harut; 11-02-2006 at 07:14 AM.


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    Greetings,

    Grandmaster Doo Wai asked me to post this post on His behalf, because He couldn't register, the page was giving 504gateawy Timeout error, and that happening with me too...I don't know why we are getting this error page...I believe the moderators are working on it if the error we are seeing is from the forum vBulletin...thank you to give us the chance to reply back.

    Here goes Grandmaster Doo Wai's words :




    Hello everyone, I thank all of you for the insults, it is good that you do not like my demos and what I wear. I wear what I want to wear because as you know America is a free country, I am Chinese so I wear Chinese clothing to perform my forms. As for my Kung fu, well, I am sure all of you are kung fu experts that are very confident of yourself. Most people that really know kung fu do not really show you everything and if some of you were learning kung fu in the old days you will not be accepted. Yes, I know it is 2006 but what does that have to do with what I wear? Sure I got Kangaroo skin on some videos, so what ? I did not go out and kill those Kangaroos, it was bought from a store and Garry was kind enough to present them to me. So what is so wierd about having Kangaroo skin on my wall. what is this about the way my room is, that is not my school it is a room I used to make DVD and videos. If you don't like the way it looks, then that is your opinion because others like the way it look, they like my wierd clothings, they like that so called 70's Porn looking set up, and how do you know it look like that ? Were you a porn producer in those days. You guys are so insecure that you got to talk a bunch of B.S. just to make yourself feel better.

    You guys talking about people making up forms, did you guys not know that every Bak Mie shifu including CLC teaches different versions of Bak Mie? CLC's Bak Mie was taught different to everyone that was CLC's student. The Bak Mie shifus themselves will admitt that CLC taught different versions of Bak Mie to certain students.

    You so called Bak Mie guys talk about putting on some wierd clothing to cheat the Westerners. CLC only accept wealthy and influential people as students and he charge a fortune for lessons, did you know CLC smoke opium and he taught different versions of his forms to each student and even today every shifu has different versions of his Bak Mie. I am not accusing because CLC's Bak Mie shifus will tell you this.

    You talking about fighting ? If you guy want to see if Bak Fu Pai is affective in a fight and you want to challenge one of our schools then go right ahead and test us. What is more important? health and then self defence or self defence before health. The prove is in the results guys. Anyway I told Dr. Harut to copy and paste this onto this forum. This will give you another chance to run me down and insult me. I love to be insulted and I thank all of you that insulted me.


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    Wow, a little touchy arent' we?

    I re-read some of the posts on the other thread and I really didn't see anything insulting of Doo Wai. Except of course people going off on his animals skins, porn star set and funky clothes. But what can you expect? Even though they were jokes, can you really argue or blame them? I mean, c'mon...

    As far as CLC and his Bok Mei, well, we all know that forms change, people get different versions, etc. No new news here.

    I still stand by my statements in the previous thread. And I don't care if Doo Wai or the ghost of Chung Lai Cheung is on the forum. I'm so through with giving young or old Chinese guys respect because they are CHINESE. From Doo Wai's video's, I don't think much of the skill demonstrated. Maybe the guy is good in real life, who knows. But I wouldn't bet on it from the video. That's my opinion, and if someone doesn't like it, I don't give a crap.

    And by the way; what exactly does a coconut break, or any break for that matter, have to do with a critique of someone's form? And how does anykind of break prove wether a style is authentic or not? I don't see the logic in the statement posted above regarding the coconut break. I for one, have broken coconut, it's no big deal. And unless I inspect the materials of a break on video, I'm always sceptical.

    And since when did coconuts start learning to hit back? What exactly does that prove anyway? It surely ISN'T any form of testimony of fighting ability, now is it?
    Last edited by Lama Pai Sifu; 11-02-2006 at 08:23 AM.

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    You said the form is sloppy Bak Mei, and I am telling you, BFP is never Bak Mei

    And you call the coconut break a crap, may be its crap, but I know from my trainings that an inch break show that you are in true internal art...I mean the exact way I told you to show.

    Be skeptical as much as you want to be...but I know what am talking about.

    As I said, I didn't hear about the thread before, I wish I had.

    By the way, there might be a clip on youtube soon...a Bak Fu Pai chi gung meditation...may be all of you start to taste to see what does BFP Chi gung means.

    We didn't come here to insult or fight anyone....but we have some rights to reply when they say BFP is another art, or its made up...or anyone who doesn't know our Teacher and starts doing assumptions on Him in an insulting way.

    Anyway, we wish you all happy journey in you systems


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    Just for fun

    Would Shihfu Doo like to make one million dollars? Maybe he doesn't, that's why I'm asking

    But if he DOES want to make one million dollars, he can reproduce his Chi Kung for James Randi.... James, a master magician, has had a challenge for years for anyone to do anything supernatural and/or not a trick and he'll pay you one million dollars

    I know, like the Austin Powers movie, that isn't a lot of money any more, but he could buy a lot of kangaroo skins with it
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    lama pie vs bak fu pie

    ""Additionally, when we talk about 'real' KF, he was a person who actually fought and killed people with it. There are a lot of people who claim to have fought with their KF and they may well have;""
    a quote from "lama pie top knob"

    quite clear you that you don't need kung fu to fight and kill some-one.lol

    it also shows how poor CTS and the seven dwarfs skill of kung fu really is.lol(no control,out to kill-sh!t best becarful)

    Bottom line consider joining your GREAT CTS in the life beyond and you too maybe respected as GREAT-the sooner the better why wait?

    hahahahahahaha

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    Dr.Harut

    I think I have the right to reply to all those who attacked our Teacher and Bak Fu Pai
    I think I should tell you that if GM Doo Wai and his circle are getting ruffled by what people are saying on a web forum, you all probably don't spend that much time on the internet, and that reflects well on you. However, restarting a closed thread reflects very poorly, because it 1. rekindles a flame war which the administrators of this forum tried to douse and 2. exposes you to further criticism. I'm going to let this slide because you're a newbie, but it comes with this warning.

    Web forums are an entirely different arena than anywhere else in the martial world. We have different rules here, different etiquette. Look at the two other people on this thread. Look at their post count. Now look at yours. Now imagine if this was a sparring ring, which it is after a fashion, only sparring with words, and imagine those post counts are past fights. Do you see where I'm going with this? Lama Pai Sifu and lkfmdc have been with us for some time. They have forum fu skillz. I'm not going to close this thread right yet, but please be cautious. You're in their arena and you might do much more harm to your master's reputation than good. I strongly advise you to read all their past threads before you continue your defense.

    I rejected a member application from a Doo Wai today. I thought it was a prank membership (we get dozens of those each day) fallout from yesterday's thread closure. If you can confirm that it is the real Doo Wai, IM me and I'll accept his membership if he reapplies.
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    hey gene its ok i'll help him out.lol

    those 2 tw@ts come upance is about due now.hahahahaha

    lama pie,steak and kidney pie makes no difference it all SH!T at the end of the day.lolololololololol

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    Actually Gene, I don't have any problems with the good doctor... he wants to defend his sifu, I understand that. So far, he hasn't thrown out any slurs, insults, childish remarks etc

    However, I'd suggest he read more carefully and sort out the characters. For example, Green Cloud does not represent CTS. Less than a week ago the entire CTS crew called him to task on his mis-representations and false attributions.

    Similarly, while some people have limited English comprehension skills, you'll find my entire comments regarding Shihfu Doo was his set and his dress. Sorry, if THAT offends you, so be it. I feel he looks very cheesey. But then again, that isn't something that you can argue about. You can't change my mind and convince me he looks "niffty"

    I'd like however at least a response to the chi kung question.....
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
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    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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    Gene-

    Web forums are an entirely different arena than anywhere else in the martial world. We have different rules here, different etiquette. Look at the two other people on this thread. Look at their post count. Now look at yours. Now imagine if this was a sparring ring, which it is after a fashion, only sparring with words, and imagine those post counts are past fights. Do you see where I'm going with this? Lama Pai Sifu and lkfmdc have been with us for some time. They have forum fu skillz. I'm not going to close this thread right yet, but please be cautious. You're in their arena and you might do much more harm to your master's reputation than good. I strongly advise you to read all their past threads before you continue your defense.
    Is that what they call INTERNET FU?

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    You still are a TURD Ross, you insulting fat f@ck!

    This Randy 1 million dollar sh!t has been going for ages, is this all you got to sling on GMDW. Show your Bak Mei skill put up a clip of you doing a RARE Bak Mei form or even better a Recent LAMA PIE clip i will tear it to shreds you poor excuse.

    Gene, just cause these lama's have been on the forum for along time gives them no rights to come on and cause ****. Look at the main forum all ROSS does is start sh!t with people. Disappointing indeed!!!

    Now Ross come back and say i cant spell and have bad english, this is all you have to say, you retard!!!

    Who is next to dress up as Lama like CTS and he wasnt even one!!!! lol

    Get a life go and brag on another forum how you have world class fighters and your the king of salsa, mma, bjj, bak mei, mok gar, lama, turkish gay wrestling...hahahhahaa

    HAHAHAHAHHAHA
    Let the games begin......

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    "Welcome to NY San Da
    Kickboxing, Jiu Jitsu, Mixed Martial Arts
    Get in Shape! Get home Safe!"

    san da kickboxing no such thing out for the con.lol

    get home safe-like a pie no such thing out for the con.lol

    get in shape like a pie proplably true.lol

    first class free - i wonder why?lol must be learn to kill some-one looking like a pie.lol

    "You can't change my mind and convince me he looks "niffty" " coming from a gorrilla dressed as a pie.lol

    lkfmdc-stands for lama kung fu mis-directed cnUnts.lololololol

    lama pie sifu is really the tranlation for pork pie.lololololo

    hahahahahaaha

    stick to posting on the internet kung fu is for sure NOT your specialty,but who can blame ya,CTS is your si-fu.lololololol

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    Hey Sui,

    Here is the GREATEST LAMA in N.Y!!!! LMFAO

    http://lionsroar.name/david_ross_gallery_2.htm

    HAHAHAHHAHAHA ENJOY

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    f.t don't stop my fun.i'm laffing my a$$ off,been on their website and man,wouldn't send my worst enemy there.lol

    i know CTS killed many,pity he's dead.his student pies have alot of payback.i hope you pies are proud.hahahahahahaahaahah

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    Thumbs down

    So, to summarize

    1. Doo Wai can't win a million dollars because he can't do his Chi Kung in a neutral situation

    2. Because you have nothing of substance, you have to resort to childish rants and insults... good representation of your teacher

    3. You're proud to be poorly educated

    4. Your final desperation, when at a loss, make something up

    When did CTS ever dress in a monk robe? Please let us all know
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
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    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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