On Behalf of Grandmaster Doo Wai

**Dr.Harut** · 11-03-2006, 07:49 AM

Since Grandmaster Doo Wai's registration is rejected because Gene thought He might not be the real Grandmaster Doo Wai...but we know that He is the real GN Doo Wai who tried to register, so, I'll post His posts.

Here is Grandmaster Doo Wai's post :

This is Doo Wai, I would like to give a harmless opinion since some on this forum Private message Dr. Harut.

Here is my reply, if you are lima pai then you should be Hop Gar, (Combine family )Lima Pai, ( Lima Pai is from Tibet originally and when it reached China it is called Bak Hok White Crane ) Bak Hok, Lima, and Hop Gar is the same, however the master of hop gar was Ng Yun Ming, Shifu Ng was shot to death during the late 60’s by the Chinese gang, he was shot in the back . You are also Choy Lee Fut, please tell me if you are Hung Sing Choi Lee Fut or Buk Sing Choi Lee Fut ? Can you tell me who developed Buk Sing Choi Lee Fut ?

As far as you said there is a lot of frauds out there and I do agreed with you, there is a lot of people opening schools and listing a list of system they supposedly mastered, now that to me look like a fraud.

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:01 AM

One, I suggest you stick to discussing things you know about. And apparently you don't know anything about Lama Pai, Hop Ga, Bak Hok or the lineages involved...

People from all these systems know that while related, they aren't all the same!

Ng YIM Ming.... I'll get to your poor Chinese in a minute, was one of MANY Hop Gar sifu... and his lineage is different than White crane and Lama Pai lineages

By the way, for a Chinese person, hmmmmm, you don't know that the "Hop" in Hop Gar is NOT "combined"

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:05 AM

Two, on behalf of many people on this forum who have asked

Can you do your Chi Kung demonstrations in a neutral location under the eye of people who have knowledge of magic tricks?

If your Chi Kung is what you say it is, all you'd have to do is perform your Chi Kung and you'd collect one million dollars

Are you opposed to collecting one million dollars for some reason?

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:07 AM

Three, do you care to comment on the law suit the Miao/Miu family brought against you that you LOST?

The law suit brought into question many of your lineage and achievement claims.

According to the records, during the trial you were either unable to prove or simply didn't respond to the claims.

Which was it? Were you unable to prove your claims? Or did you simply not respond?

If you didnt' respond, why not?

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:09 AM

Four, do you have any ethical concerns about promoting the use of animal fur? Some people find killing animals to use their skins both barbaric and inhumane.

Do you know there is a world wide movement opposed to the use of fur?

I'll concede, you don't have to agree with movements like PETA, but you have to also accept that people who believe this find your videos OFFENSIVE

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:09 AM

Feel free to answer any or all of the above questions....

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:49 AM

I never even made a comment on performance, yet you attack my teacher and my lineage?

Now, I am still not being rude to you, but I've asked you several questions

Originally Posted by lkfmdc

Three, do you care to comment on the law suit the Miao/Miu family brought against you that you LOST?

The law suit brought into question many of your lineage and achievement claims.

According to the records, during the trial you were either unable to prove or simply didn't respond to the claims.

Which was it? Were you unable to prove your claims? Or did you simply not respond?

If you didnt' respond, why not?

PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION

**Dr.Harut** · 11-03-2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by lkfmdc

I never even made a comment on performance, yet you attack my teacher and my lineage?

Now, I am still not being rude to you, but I've asked you several questions

PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION

This is Grandmaster Doo Wai's reply:

The Lima questions was not directed at the African American shifu, it was directed at the guy that said sloppy Bak Mie. That African American gentleman however, the post of me being sue by a family is complete rubbish. So my comment is what law suit? Are you making this up? You guys have a good imagination

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:54 AM

Please address the questions I asked

Originally Posted by lkfmdc

do you care to comment on the law suit the Miao/Miu family brought against you that you LOST?

The law suit brought into question many of your lineage and achievement claims.

According to the records, during the trial you were either unable to prove or simply didn't respond to the claims.

Which was it? Were you unable to prove your claims? Or did you simply not respond?

If you didnt' respond, why not?

**Dr.Harut** · 11-03-2006, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by lkfmdc

Two, on behalf of many people on this forum who have asked

Can you do your Chi Kung demonstrations in a neutral location under the eye of people who have knowledge of magic tricks?

If your Chi Kung is what you say it is, all you'd have to do is perform your Chi Kung and you'd collect one million dollars

Are you opposed to collecting one million dollars for some reason?

I told...I am posting on Grandmaster Doo Wai's behalf...that means He is the one who is writing the posts...and am just copying them here

Please wait...you will receive reply

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:49 AM

I never even made a comment on performance, yet you attack my teacher and my lineage?

Now, I am still not being rude to you, but I've asked you several questions

Originally Posted by lkfmdc

Can you do your Chi Kung demonstrations in a neutral location under the eye of people who have knowledge of magic tricks?

If your Chi Kung is what you say it is, all you'd have to do is perform your Chi Kung and you'd collect one million dollars

Are you opposed to collecting one million dollars for some reason?

PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION

**Dr.Harut** · 11-03-2006, 08:52 AM

Who is your teacher Shifu Ross?

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 08:53 AM

Funny, you seem to keep wanting to change the subject

Why can't you just answer the questions I asked? I wasn't rude, I asked you a few questions

PLEASE ANSWER THEM

**GeneChing** · 11-03-2006, 10:36 AM

Please recall my earlier post on Doo Wai's membership. I'd welcome him to this discussion if he reapplies for membership. Unfortunately, once a membership application is deleted, I cannot reinstate it. The record is lost. But if Doo Wai reapplies and Dr.Harut confirms with me that it is indeed the Doo Wai via PM, I'm happy to approve his membership. Please understand that I deny dozens of membership applications every day. When I saw the Doo Wai application, I deleted it out of prudence, mostly because these threads have become flame wars and I was trying to minimize my need to administrate here. Yesterday it resulted in two bannings and today, I banned two more.

Dr.Harut, your response to lkfmdc's interogation has not degenerated into pie tossing

and I'm happy to see that. The messages you have been relaying for Doo Wai have not gone that way either. Please ask him to reapply and confirm his identity with me via PM. Given that the the axe is out and more bannings may come, I must insist on the PM confirmation, just to be safe. We don't want to ignite any more flame wars.

**lkfmdc** · 11-03-2006, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by lkfmdc

Can you do your Chi Kung demonstrations in a neutral location under the eye of people who have knowledge of magic tricks?

If your Chi Kung is what you say it is, all you'd have to do is perform your Chi Kung and you'd collect one million dollars

Are you opposed to collecting one million dollars for some reason?

In case you missed the questions, I'd like you to address this one now

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