Pak Mei Broadsword?

[Tiger on Duty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a8Q96C3MO4

An old clip of my sihing doing double phoenix.

[Olaf]

I tend to disagree with the fact that the pak mei weapon forms would be generic. Let me put upfront that I only know the trident and staff sets but they feature the use of the six powers and the float sink spit swallow principles. Yes, they may have come from other systems (like Li Gar) but over the cause of time and through the involvement of Cheung Lai Cheun they have certainly been 'Pak Mei-ised'.

[Phuc Carem]

Oh yeah well I beat up 30 girls named Wing Chun and made them leave town LOL

Dr Leung John,
The legends? All true. I myself have fought 23 Hung Kuen players to the death and do my best to burn down every shaolin school within a 100km radius. I am practically invunlerable, however the eyes and throat are still weak. I hope to have the throat invincible by next year. All it takes is a bit of training, and some of the secret medicine....and a little more of the secret medicine, and a little more of the secret medicine....



Hey Kei Lun, how ya doing.

I'm told the Tonfas were created from a melon knife form (butterfly knifes), because to kill somebody with a stick was a much lesser crime than to kill somebody with a blade.

BTW, Sifu is no big fan of weapons, but your hypothesis holds true with us, we have the single and double swords, but no Tonfas. Does that groundwork sword form have the bit where you roll around like a breakdancer cutting everybody's feet off? And the kip up attack with the two swords as well?

[Vince]

I found on youtube a "tiger tornado broadsword" - form here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN7CRsVrS4E. First: I don't expect that to be the pak mei broadsword form, but if some of you knowing people who have seen the actual form could comment on if it is anything like it (its probably not).
Thanks ahead.

[Yum Cha]

Hi Vince,
The first form has some characteristics similar to the version I know of the single sword, and the last has some common moves as well.

That being said, keep in mind that the swords are not that Pak Mei centric, in my opinion. There are some basic techniques for using a single and double dao, and you will see them in a lot of exhibitions of those weapons.

The guy doing the forms was well skilled, and used the weapons with vigor. That in itself sets the performance apart. Of course, he was using the big 9 ringed broadsword but I think it was a light weight wu shu blade, not a heavy one.

Cheers

[Vince]

I found another one: http://www.nccma.co.uk/videos.htm# there is a form call seun fung do (tornado broadsword). Is this it (probably not)? Or any other comments/opinions on that one?

Then I found this page: http://hometown.aol.co.uk/pakmeikuen/page2.html where at the bottom is a form called: Lun Fu Dan Do Kuen. Any ideas on that one?

Thanks ahead.

[Vince]

I guess the above mentioned "Lun Fu Dan Dao" means also tornado/WHIRLwind (single) broadsword.

Furthermore a Bak Mei Saber video appeared at youtube, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1S1114FdAs

[Vince]

another possible pak mei broadsword video (may be). unusual i think would be the one-legged stances, i guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grHAn-bTl3o

Comments?

[jit fu]

this is choy li fut dahn do set...king mui lineage.

[Vince]

thanks for clearing that up.

[jit fu]

no problem...i do have the set you are asking about on video.

[Vince]

you mean the choy li fut set?

[jit fu]

no, the bak mei dahn do.

[Vince]

For real? That's great. ... Would you mind sharing?

[jit fu]

pm me and we'll see what can be worked out.