Myth of the CMA forum

[lunghushan]

I think this is a result of the current state of netiquette along with fallout from the trolling. It's a shame too, because if you think about it, you wouldn't treat a beginning student so rudely. Everyone is a beginner once. When we get rude to beginners for no other reason than knee-jerk reaction, we start to lose sight of the future.

I just get tired of being called a troll.

You try to debate some issue, people don't like it, so they call you some troll instead of trying to reason for themselves.

I have to admit that I think my posts have gotten more rude recently as a backlash against that.

The MMA vs. CMA thing is a perfect example of that because everybody seems so stuck with their view. They don't really seem to want to think about the other side -- they'd just rather attack.

Perhaps this phenomena is because some people aren't getting enough fighting outside the forum -- I don't know.

But it's not just the forum -- it's also driving and life in general. As life is getting harder people don't take the time to reason -- they'd rather just attack.

[PangQuan]

if you feel somone is posting/responding, soley with the intent of arguing/insulting....ignore them.

you dont HAVE to debate anything.

trying to convince others that your point of view/training is the correct way is near pointless.

you will find that 90% + of the people on this forum are set in their ways.

you are the master of your domain.

[hung-le]

From what I've heard, MMA is just another front for Scientology....

They're out to get us, man. They'll stop at nothing. You see, the IRS, in league with the English banks, means to keep us thrall to Intergalactic Warlord, Lord Xenu's vicous body thetans.....

Wait....who's that knockin' at my door?

Oh ****!!!!!!!

*crash* *boom* *clang*

Take that, you MMMutha****a!!!!!

ha ha ha !!! oops fell off my chair

[Knifefighter]

Actually, that would make no sense. "these" discussions? what part of your anus did this brain fart come from?

Boy, you are the embodiment of whats wrong with this forum. WTF, does an upstart 17 year old BOY know? Not a whole heck of a lot, thats what.

The LAST thing we need is another whining mimi kid coming in here regergitating the same old BS he learned on the 1nt3rn3tz trying to look cool in front of his friends.

He is much more well informed than you are. If you look back over the various threads, you will find that MMA people generally start few threads and don't post on threads that aren't either about some portion of MMA or that include some ill informed comment about MMA by a CMA guy who doesnt' have a clue about MMA or grappling.

I doubt you will see any MMA interjections in the threads about axe fighting, CMA teachers' bios, dedicated CMA students, 5 animal 5 element forms, refinishing a drum, James Cama Teaching Southern Praying Mantis at Chinatown Sports Club, Cha style long fist, EBMAS, Kungfu in San Diego/ South Orange County, Falun Gong, Kungfu in San Diego/ South Orange County, 18 Daoist Palms System, James McNeil's Iron Palm training, Yue Fei really creating Eagle Claw, or any of hundreds of other threads about kung fu.

It's hard not to comment when some clueless rube talks about how he would poke Chuck Lidell's eyes out.

[couch]

It's hard not to comment when some clueless rube talks about how he would poke Chuck Lidell's eyes out.

It's hard not to comment, but that person still has to walk their path.

There are plenty of us kickin it on the forum, talking about pressure testing...and hopefully the nubes will catch on...but it's all up to them.

There are many more "traditionalists" around than any other CMA practicioners. They can have their piece of the pie!

...and if I got Chucky coming after me...maybe a poke in the eyes as he sniffs a rail isn't such a bad idea.

Best,
Kenton Sefcik

[Yao Sing]

In all honesty this was pretty much a joke thread. I don't take much of this place serious anymore. I'm surprised it went beyond one page. I expected a couple of oddball comments and then it disappears.

Just shows you the state of conversation on this forum. A shining example of why I don't take this place serious.

Personally, I don't mind the MMA participation as long as it's technical discussion. The insulting comments and wide generalizations that CMA techniques don't work etc. are just a waste of time.

If you think something doesn't work then explain why. Offer a better way if you have one. If someone prefers to stick with what works for them then respect their choice instead of claiming they're clueless and in fantasy land. It's obvious there's an 'us vs them' undertone to half the threads here.

Merryprankster is a good example of discussing CMA from a MMA perspective. Knifefighter is the worst, mostly taking jabs and provoking.

Maybe give people the benefit of doubt. If I say I've used a certain technique with success why do I need to provide video and affidavits from eyewitnesses? Take it with a grain of salt if you want to don't call me a liar.

And you're right about the recent trend of rudeness. It seems to have hit an all time high around here. That's what happens when people can't have a civil conversation. It all devolves.

[SifuAbel]

A part of me wants to blame the recent rudeness on our forum on MMA phenomenon. Don't get me wrong - I love MMA - but it's rampant commercialism has brought about a general loss of etiquette in the martial arts. That's the real sacrifice and something we'll all have to deal with in the future. But truth be told, I don't really think that's what's at fault here. It's more the insecurities of the traditionalists, and I say that as a traditionalist. In general, traditionalists are too easily sucker-punched by the ol' MMA 'real in the ring' debate.

Wow, 1998 called, they want thier realization back. Recent rudeness? There's nothing recent about it. CMA has been a whipping dog on this site for nearly a decade. I remember a time here where If you weren't fellating Royce Gracie's effigy you were taken out back and shot.

[SifuAbel]

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Maybe give people the benefit of doubt. If I say I've used a certain technique with success why do I need to provide video and affidavits from eyewitnesses?

Because He is a wanker...........

You do realize its all small man syndrome. You know, " if you can't make yourself bigger, then try your best to make everyone smaller." God forbid we lowly CMA guys bite the doggy treat off our noses before the "mazta" says so.

[unkokusai]

CMA has been a whipping dog on this site for nearly a decade. .

The master of whining-fu shows his 'form'

[GeneChing]

Sure there's been CMA detractors all along. That's to be expected. And the CMA vs. MMA argument is been replayed over and over, like a bad youtube vid. However, over the last few months, there has been a recent trend towards exceptional rudeness on the main forum in particular. Despite Yao Sing's 'joke thread' comment, obviously this touched a nerve. And clearly it's not the only thread to address this issue here lately. Perhaps because we haven't had a good banning run in a spell. Perhaps it's fallout from the holidays. I'm hoping it passes. Should it be taken seriously? Well, the forum, like any community, especially a martial community, has its share of *******s. If we banned all the *******s, well, that's just unnatural. At the same time, there are plenty of interesting members here so I still enjoy the discussions. And I take my enjoyment very seriously.

[lkfmdc]

Gene, there is an obvious answer. Anyone who mis-behaves should be temporarily banned AND be forced to post for a few weeks over at the BFP forum



I'd normally say Happy New Year, but the real one isn't here yet

[hung-le]

Wow, 1998 called, they want thier realization back. Recent rudeness? There's nothing recent about it. CMA has been a whipping dog on this site for nearly a decade. I remember a time here where If you weren't fellating Royce Gracie's effigy you were taken out back and shot.

yep, I second that, I rememeber those days

[hung-le]

The master of whining-fu shows his 'form'

You got to be kidding… you are one of the biggest advocates of CMA shagging here. With over 1500 post to your name and about 90% of it anti CMA, just like I asked Knife fighter…why do you continue come here?

I don’t post much, yet I’ve been here since the days of Ralek. I don’t think I’ve read anything that you have posted that is decent or tuley positive about a Chinese martial art.

[hung-le]

Sure there's been CMA detractors all along. That's to be expected. And the CMA vs. MMA argument is been replayed over and over, like a bad youtube vid. However, over the last few months, there has been a recent trend towards exceptional rudeness on the main forum in particular. Despite Yao Sing's 'joke thread' comment, obviously this touched a nerve. And clearly it's not the only thread to address this issue here lately. Perhaps because we haven't had a good banning run in a spell. Perhaps it's fallout from the holidays. I'm hoping it passes. Should it be taken seriously? Well, the forum, like any community, especially a martial community, has its share of *******s. If we banned all the *******s, well, that's just unnatural. At the same time, there are plenty of interesting members here so I still enjoy the discussions. And I take my enjoyment very seriously.

This explains a lot……


What planet are you on?

There are about six guys with the names of “Mr jujigatme”, “Mr shime waza,” “trangle.4you”, “Stickfighter,” “ChokeUout” and “SubmitUhard.” (obviously …not their internet names ) that have a MMA vent and have hijacked this news group from time to time.

I truly wondered if their was a moderator…Now I understand….

[Knifefighter]

You got to be kidding… you are one of the biggest advocates of CMA shagging here. With over 1500 post to your name and about 90% of it anti CMA, just like I asked Knife fighter…why do you continue come here?

We have so many posts because we only post under one name, rather than pretending to be several different people.