Err no, his first teacher did indeed know the knives and the pole. As he was Ip Man's first student in Hong Kong. Somehow the knives have taken on this mystery of their own.
I have personally met close to a dozen direct students of Leung Sheung, and they were all taught the weapons sets. They did not go seek this knowledge from other teachers.
Leung Ting decided he wanted to study with his sigung and did so without asking Leung Sheung. When this became publically apparent, he was no longer Leung Sheung's student and was disowned as such. That caused lots of bitterness as can be seen in Leung Ting's books. Such is life.
I imagine the pole would be a secret deal as well, if Lok Yiu had not been known as the King of the Pole. If he had called himself king of the knives perhaps the pole would have the mystery behind them.
Originally Posted by
An jie
Leung Ting was a grand student of Ip Sijo, not a direct student. Just as students today have the opportunity to train with their Sigung's so did Leung Ting.
Leung Ting's Sifu did not know the Bat Jam Dao, so he was sent to learn from his Sigung, Ip Man, in a seminar fashion not a as a direct student
Additionally, if you create your own organization, it is not difficult to be 11th grade or level, when you have created the grading structure with which you will be assessed.
David Williams
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