in the movie "the shaolin temple" with jet li, i understand master pan qing fu, now in ontario, canada, was an actor/extra...can anyone tell me me which character he was?
thanking you in advance,
neil
in the movie "the shaolin temple" with jet li, i understand master pan qing fu, now in ontario, canada, was an actor/extra...can anyone tell me me which character he was?
thanking you in advance,
neil
Wasn't he the one eyes dude with the claw weapon thing?
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Pan played a general, a supporting character. You can only see in in a few scenes doing walk-ons behind General Renze (the villian) who was played by famed double-sword master, Yu Chenghui.
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I got to meet Pan Quing Fu a few years back. That guy is cool. (He is also wicked with a spear, he and one of his students did a two person spear form, WOW is all I can say).
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hi
-i tried a search, but couldn't really find any discussion on shorinji kempo on this site...so i was wondering what you guys thought of it...
-reason i'm asking is that i recently watched the jet li-shaolin temple movie on dvd, and noticed that there are several scenes where they used shorinji kempo techniques, including an extended fight scene during the big battle in the temple, and at the very last scene at the end of the movie, where they are doing a basic upper block and front kick(while the voice over describes how shaolin martial arts are now everywhere, etc...which i thought was a little ironic, since the movie was about the shaolin temple and chinese martial arts, but the movie concludes with the scene of the monks doing shorinji kempo moves).
-i was wondering too, if with all the different martial arts practitioners around, was there news on conflicts between the practitioners, especially since the shorinji kempo people in the movie were japanese...
-anyways, just curious about what people thought or heard...
thanks
joshua lee
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Originally Posted by MasterKillerOriginally Posted by GeneChing
While the movie, Shaolin Temple, was significant not just in film history, but also in Shaolin's history, it's not good to read to much into the styles in the film itself. Most of the talent for that film was shipped in - Jet Li was on the BWT, Yu Hai was from Shandong (as were many other masters). Ironically, Yu Hai left his modern mantis form at Shaolin, which is still practiced at many of the private schools today. I think you can read something into the exclusion of the Shorinji scenes in later editions of Shaolin Temple (the film). I haven't seen those scenes on any of the DVDs, except maybe the bootlegs...
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thanks for the replies...i'll try to do a better search next time...
-as for the dvd scenes...the dvd is not a bootleg, and is distributed by 'mei ah' from hong kong...and is i think, a remastered version, since the colours look so vibrant, with dts sound, and has all the regular chapters, languages(mandarin, cantonese) and subtitles(english, simplified and traditional chinese) on it...
-and MK: do you have a source for the court case? i've tried a search for mention/documentation of it, but couldn't find it...the shorinji people at e-budo have had a similar question asked of them as well, and they've tried a search as well, including asking the honbu, but couldn't find anything either...the shorinji website seems to document the the name changes of the organization throught the past few years, but makes no mention of the court case or change to 'nippon shorinji krmpo'
anyways, thanks for the replies
Interesting on the DVD - just goes to show, I suppose. I always thought that intro added to the movie and was disappointed to find it not on my DVD version. Maybe mine is the bootleg.
As for the court case, well, I can't give you the actual court case number, but according to the Dictionary of Japanese Martial Arts p.361:After a court decision in 1972 the name was changed to Nippon Shorinji kenpo.
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For those of you who may recognise the names, here is a quotation from Rogelio Casero regarding some details of SO Doshin's Chinese instructors. The quotation is from this old thread;
I have been doing research on Shorinji Kempo roots for some years, and I can say the following:
Yihe Quan is a boxing style and also a secret society.
As far as I know, Yihe Quan society was founded by somebody called Chu Hungtang from Shandong. Another theory is that Yihe Quan sect was created by Zhou Hongyi from Zhili at the end of the Ming dynasty. I donīt know whether Chu Hungtang and Zhou Hongyi are the same individual with different transcription of his name or they are two diferent individuals.
Apparently, at the beginning Chu Hungtang stressed only on Kung Fu practice, without teaching any philosophy, but years later, after reading some books about Bagua sect and White Lotus society, he turned Yihe Quan into a philosophical society, which later took part in the Boxer Uprising.
As a boxing style, and according to many Kung Fu masters, Yihe Quan is the same as Meihua Quan (Plum Blossom Boxing). Apparently Chu Hungtang did Meihua Quan and taught his style to Yihe Quan members. Later, during Boxers Rebellion, masters of others styles joined Yihe Quan society.
As regards Wan Xian Zhai, he is the founder of Yi Quan, a different style from Yihe Quan, which bears no relation to this one. Yi Quan is based on Xingyi Quan, another famous Kung Fu style.
In relation to Wen Taizongīs name, I must say that he was also known as Ziming, but I have never heard other names of him, though I have read other transcriptions from chinese as Wen Lao Cho or Wen Lanshi.
Regards.
Rogelio Casero
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By the power of the internet, I have copied the link to the official world organization web page with the information you seek.
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There are two shorinji kempos.
One is the one invented in 1947, by So Doshin (see above link). It says on that site that he combined the CMA and JMA he had learned, but in fact he admitted to have just seen the name in China and decided it sounded like what he wanted to express. There is no evidence that he even learned any CMA, and no reason to think (despite that site claiming that he experienced the full wretchedness of a defeated people when he was in China!) that any Chinese people would have taught anything to their invaders in that time.
The other is Okinawan kempo which does come from China. This wiki link doesn't use the name shorinji, but I have heard it called that by its practioners over here.
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They have a place in Seattle. I called them once and it didn't sound bad but I have no other information.
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