He Royal Dragon-- I was able to google this quickly:
United Martial Arts
Mr. Glenn Gottner
26 Evergreen Plaza, Arlington Hts. IL 60005
Home: (847) 459-7660
EMAIL: peanutmm7@msn.com
the site says updated as of mar 21, 2006. The same web page (http://www.mararts.org/active/BB1.shtml) says
Chung Moo Quan:
Glenn Gottner, 4th Degree
William McDonough, 4th Degree
James Rath, 4th Degree
you said: "although I hate to advocate teaching off of video, its quite a bit better than teaching Chung Moo Quan to anyone..." i agree and i even think experienced martial artists can learn beneficial things from videos. the part that bothers me is telling your students that you are passing along training you got from a master when in reality you are watching dvds... that is the style I call "Take One's Dough".
here's jerry cook stuff: http://www.unitedmartialarts.com/Cook_p1.htm
he is in arizona and gottner is in illinois, so maybe the train together by video recording each other and watching their dvds of each other?
ok, i don't know the man, but check out his web page. I'm a little suspicious of anyone who presents themselves in such grandeur-- and i don't believe anyone who says he is an "expert" in more than a half dozen or dozen forms, much less 108.
"master Jerry Cook is a true Master of the Martial Arts. He is a 7th Degree Black Belt in Karate and a Master of Chinese Kung Fu, specializing in traditional Shaolin and Wu Tang styles (internal and external arts). He has authored eight books on the martial arts, won over 50 tournaments, is an expert in 108-forms and has been teaching for over 30 years. He specializes in instructing high-ranking Black Belts in exotic weapons, forms and training systems. His extensive knowledge and expertise have made him an incomparable resource to the United Martial Arts schools throughout the nation, not to mention many other styles and schools. The following pages provide some of his history and credentials. Jerry is a good friend and a remarkable asset to the world of martial arts. "
..hmmm...must have written that himself...ya think?....
"an expert in 108-forms and has been teaching for over 30 years..."-- he must be insanely good to not only remember 108 forms, but to be an "expert" in them...how many hours of practice is that to do each one one time?...and if he's been teaching for over 30 years, that means he started teaching around the time of his first lesson.
"an incomparable resource to the United Martial Arts schools throughout the nation.." i checked, the uma formed in 1996 and if you pay $50 and agree to give them a piece of each student's money you can be an incomparable resource, too.