That seems to be a matter of the nature of the house, or even perhaps the various styles.
The loudest and most visible gyms are the competative ones and the most populated are the exercise & form ones. Neither of those prioritize outside of that and they are more vulnerable to winds and schism.
Not just nature & nurture, but environment, goals & contrast in group dynamics. I doubt a ranger or a seal would identify a pro martial environment as one of petty jealousies, false competition or argument tactics or where that which occurs is able to affect the group as a whole to any degree.
"The perfect way to do, is to be" ~ Lao Tzu
any opportunity for power and control attracts those ppl like flies in anything in life
thats why kung fu got no hierarchy
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Wow - this a trip down memory lane. Nice to see some old names I'd long forgotten.
Worst infighting I ever heard of happened in a friend's kendo school. The sensei gave his blessing for his senior to open his own branch (dude was a good teacher and excellent kendoka). Two years on, with much success, a long lost sempai of the new instructor turned up. He hadn't trained for 25 years, but at one point was very high in the organisation. Japanese worklife just stole him away.
Anyway, 25 years or so later he decides he's now got enough time to come back to training, shows up at the branch school (where according to tradition, he is still the highest ranked person after the sensei) and starts throwing his weight around. The teacher is doing this wrong. The teacher is doing that wrong. The teacher wasn't there in the early days when it was just him and the sensei building the organisation. Seriously giving no face at all.
The sensei was at first thrilled to have him back. He did used to be his #1 after all, but as far as I know, even though he quickly grew tired of the sempai's behaviour and attitude, he never stepped in to help the younger teacher. I was told he had words with the sempai, but it didn't change much, and he never intervened on his younger teacher's behalf.
It ripped the organisation apart.
At my old school I never saw anything beyond a bit of healthy rivalry. But there were a few barely mentioned rumours of this or that person who left under a dark cloud.
I guess what I'm saying is even in good schools, eventually some bad blood might pop up.
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See our WINNERS-INFIGHTING-on-DVD-autographed-by-Rory-Miller thread.
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Some people like family feud and thrive on drama.
Some would save their energy and time to develop a few skills.
No time nor energy wasted on squabbling.
Clearly, I posted our WINNERS-INFIGHTING-on-DVD-autographed-by-Rory-Miller sweepstakes on the wrong thread.
At least infighting got a little more discussion from the ttt.
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