Shou Shu - real or another made-up melange?

[Royal Dragon]

I would just like to mention that this Thread is SIX frik'n years old!!

[bodhitree]

Like you've never TTTed an old thread

[lkfmdc]

He created an account just to TTT this thread

[Royal Dragon]

Yeah, I noticed that too.

[bodhitree]

so, shou shu, another fulun gong?

[BruceSteveRoy]

He created an account just to TTT this thread

yeah that is a big thumbs down.

[GeneChing]

I'm only disappointed that shifu sullivan doesn't have much more to add... so far.

[PangQuan]

i wouldnt say that martial arts originated any where in specific.

more likely i would say some thing regarding egyptians and martial arts like:

"There has been evidence recovered to the effect that there may have been a systematic form of martial arts in ancient egypt. This very well could be the oldest found civilization with documentation showing systematically practiced martial arts among its people"

thats how i would phrase that, otherwise we are simply speculating and putting forth theory, regardless of how much evidence is in play, we still have no concrete answers on the subject.

[L.Waters]

Mr Lee http://www.bokfudo.com/BokFuDoHistory.aspx

Developing the system of Bok-Fu-Do has and continues to be my life’s work. When I first opened the Castro Valley school in 1967 I was teaching the Tracy system of Kenpo as taught to him by Ed Parker. The school grew so quickly that I decided to open another in Dublin and shortly thereafter a third in Walnut Creek. By the early 1970’s I was operating six schools and had many students that earned their black belts with me under the Tracy system of Kenpo.

The black belts that I produced after 1972 were the first Bok-Fu black belts.


http://www.bokfudo.com/HallOfFame1960s.aspx

Bok Fu Do - 1960s
History


The following names are a complete list of outstanding world class Black Belt men and women,
dating back to the 1960's,
Richard Lee Black Belts 1960's (Tracy System)

Pat Douglas
Glen Hasstedt
Al Moore
Ralph Moore

http://www.bokfudo.com/HallOfFame1970s.aspx

Richard Lee Black Belts 1970's (Now Bok Fu Do)

Bill Kelly
Ron Lee
John Simmons * *
Rich Brown *
Rich Buford
Terry Kane *
Gerry Kawaguchi *
Mark Miller *
Herb Cody *
Mike Adair * w
Mark Vanderpool *
John Coen *
Steve Gaudenzi *
Tony Ito *
Robert Ito
Jim Kane
Tyler Hanamura
Johnny Hein
Al Moore Jr.
Tom Amaral

This is what Grandmaster Al Tracy, Steve Labounty, Ted Sumner, Brian Hawkins have said over the years, and now by Grandmaster Richard Lee. Al and Ralph studied under the Tracy kenpo system and was developed, recognized, and certified by Grandmaster Richard Lee.

Mr Moore and Family Trained under GM Richard Lee in the Tracy Chinese Kenpo system and then Al Moore Jr AKA Jung moon in the 1967 Bok Fu system. Moved to small town USA and started the Lost Art of Shou Shu.

No Chinese Mafia etc,etc,etc.

http://shoushuhistory.myblogvoice.com/ Use yahoo search for Al Moore's Shou Shu History

[kungfuyou]

I would just like to mention that this Thread is SIX frik'n years old!!

It's because classics never die!!

[lkfmdc]

I give it a 10 on the WGF meter

[cjurakpt]

I give it a 10 on the WGF meter

Dave, you are precipitously close to 5K posts there man!

[L.Waters]

http://silvertigerkungfu.com/SilverT...formation.html


ABOUT GRANDSHIFU SUTHERBY.

Grandshifu Sutherby created Silver Tiger Kung-Fu in Portland, Oregon in 1979. His interest in the martial arts began long before that, at the age of 16, when he learned hand-to-hand combat from his uncle, an instructor for the Marine Corp. In 1960, Grandshifu Sutherby joined the Navy and, over the course of his two tours of duty, was stationed in Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines, Vietnam, and finally Guam, where he served aboard a nuclear sub tender. These military and overseas experiences afforded him the opportunity to further his studies in both external and internal styles of the martial arts.

After leaving the military in 1971, Sutherby moved to central California. Anxious to continue his studies in the martial arts, he started researching the schools in the area. He hoped to find a studio that taught something similar to what he learned overseas.

He found Moore's Karate, overseen by Da Shifu Al Moore, Sr. At that time, Da Shifu Moore taught Kempo, and Sutherby studied this for the first year. Then Da Shifu Moore created the art of Shou Shu,

turning away from the hardness of the external styles to focus instead on the softer movement of the internal styles. Sutherby was privileged to both witness and be a part of this change. After studying with Da Shifu Moore and other senior black belts, Sutherby obtained his 1st degree black belt.

At the end of 1978, he had to make a career move to Oregon and so he was forced to end his studies with Da Shifu Al Moore. In Oregon, he once again searched for a martial arts studio, trying to find something comparable to what he had been taught in California. In this he was unsuccessful. Therefore, he decided to put all of his training and research to use. Confident that he was ready to open his own studio, Silver Tiger Kung-Fu was born. To this day, Grandshifu Sutherby continues to research as well as teach the martial arts. He is also writing two books with his fellow students.

[bodhitree]

oh no, please no

[lkfmdc]

I give it a 10 on the WGF meter

My previous review stands the test of time