scraped my elbow grappling on concrete

[SevenStar]

Questions for 7:

Why didn't you try to get up from being on your back when in half guard? Why did you feel the need to go to full guard first?

Was it because this is what you were taught the strategy/sequence should be - and you just did it automatically....

or did you first test the waters about escaping/reversing and decided that you needed full guard?

habit. I can sweep from half guard, but my half guard is weak, so whenever I am in it, I try to pull a full guard before I get passed.

[SevenStar]

You really don't want to do that. Cauterizing something like that will make extremely bad scarring.

you know that was a joke, right?

[SevenStar]

i bruised my knees grappling on hard wood floors, but that story isnt nearly as cool.

I bruised waterdragon doing throws on a hardwood floor.

[Adventure427]

Nice Job Seven... I'm the same way...if i ever get into half guard i immediately go for full, i feel much more comfortable there. Although my brother did this one thing while he had me in his half that hurt like crazy, and i dont know if its a real technique or not, but it worked!

OK so he's got me in his half...let's say he's trapping my right leg (he was)...he takes HIS left leg and puts it so the bottom of his foot faces right..so his leg is at a 90 degree angle or so ontop of mine...his right leg is on top of his left . Hope your still with me so far...

And then he takes his right foot (bare..can't imagine with shoes on)...and puts it on the back of my calf (near the top or middle top) and pushes it down towards my ankle...i couldn't even move it (i got hairy legs so he had extra traction) But it was mad painful and almost had me paralyzed...i had to submit, i couldn't do anything and he had my arms controlled. Ever heard of a technique like that?

[PangQuan]

i bruised my knees grappling on hard wood floors, but that story isnt nearly as cool.

so they call that grappling now days?

[SevenStar]

Nice Job Seven... I'm the same way...if i ever get into half guard i immediately go for full, i feel much more comfortable there. Although my brother did this one thing while he had me in his half that hurt like crazy, and i dont know if its a real technique or not, but it worked!

OK so he's got me in his half...let's say he's trapping my right leg (he was)...he takes HIS left leg and puts it so the bottom of his foot faces right..so his leg is at a 90 degree angle or so ontop of mine...his right leg is on top of his left . Hope your still with me so far...

And then he takes his right foot (bare..can't imagine with shoes on)...and puts it on the back of my calf (near the top or middle top) and pushes it down towards my ankle...i couldn't even move it (i got hairy legs so he had extra traction) But it was mad painful and almost had me paralyzed...i had to submit, i couldn't do anything and he had my arms controlled. Ever heard of a technique like that?

If I'm picturing it correctly, I have never heard of that - I'll get KF to look at this thread and see if he knows.

[Water-quan]

As a child I did a wheelie on my bike and came off the back - skidding on my knees for a couple of feet. Ouch! Talk about scraping knees!

[Knifefighter]

Nice Job Seven... I'm the same way...if i ever get into half guard i immediately go for full, i feel much more comfortable there. Although my brother did this one thing while he had me in his half that hurt like crazy, and i dont know if its a real technique or not, but it worked!

OK so he's got me in his half...let's say he's trapping my right leg (he was)...he takes HIS left leg and puts it so the bottom of his foot faces right..so his leg is at a 90 degree angle or so ontop of mine...his right leg is on top of his left . Hope your still with me so far...

And then he takes his right foot (bare..can't imagine with shoes on)...and puts it on the back of my calf (near the top or middle top) and pushes it down towards my ankle...i couldn't even move it (i got hairy legs so he had extra traction) But it was mad painful and almost had me paralyzed...i had to submit, i couldn't do anything and he had my arms controlled. Ever heard of a technique like that?

That's one version of the lockdown... kind of a half lockdown. It's not usually a submission against someone skilled, but more of a transition into the full lockdown or into an open lockdown.

The full lock down has the right foot underneath the opponent's shin/ankle area and both legs extended.

[SevenStar]

that's no submission though...

[Knifefighter]

that's no submission though...

I've seen newbies occasionally freak out and get submitted off the full lockdown.

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone tapping from what he is describing.

[neilhytholt]

you know that was a joke, right?

Just wanted to make sure you knew. Didn't think you'd really try it, but just in case.

Having spent time around crazy aussies, I'm pretty sure they'd try it just to see what it felt like.

There IS a purpose to cautery like that if you have a deep flesh wound and can't stop the bleeding in emergency situations, but you don't really need to do it for scrapes. (Unless you have no antibiotics and are away from medical care, and it starts to fester badly).

[SevenStar]

Have you looked into Tom Patire's CDT training? I took a seminar years ago, and the techniques were brutally effective, simple, and safe. Safe, meaning that the techniques were specifically designed with liability in mind. How you handle the situation not only physically, but verbally as well to make sure that witnesses see that you are not the aggressor. It was designed for bodyguards, bouncers, and hospital workers and security. Pretty cool stuff in my opinion.

No, I haven't. I just checked out the CDT website though, and see some interesting courses.

EDIT: I kept searching and found an article talking about his use of nervous system KOs in his LRT system. Now I am skeptical. CDT sounds good at the glance I took, though.

[David Jamieson]

Dude, you lose 2 points of street cred for whining about elbow scrapes.

the worst part is you got a lot of street cred points back for falling down an elevator shaft on top of a guy.

man...

[Meat Shake]

One night I came home really drunk.
CPA and a friend were with me. For some strange reason we began wrestling in the street, and being drunk I pulled in our friend who was an innocent bystander.
We almost got hit by a car and decided to go inside...
I woke up the next morning with road rash on my face and arms and couldnt remember why.
Good times.

[Water Dragon]

I bruised waterdragon doing throws on a hardwood floor.

lol, I think I've been thrown off mats almost as much as I've been thrown on mats.