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    Jackie Chan's Disciples

    Apr 7, 10:23 AM EDT
    Jackie Chan Launches Chinese TV Show

    BEIJING (AP) -- Jackie Chan on Saturday launched a Chinese TV competition aimed at scouting out new action movie talent, saying more than 100,000 people have already signed up for a shot at kung fu stardom.

    "A lot of actors are good at fighting but (their style) is not beautiful," the Chinese star and stunt man, who turned 53 Saturday, said in Beijing.

    "If you can incorporate dance with an ability to perform kung fu, that would be better," Chan told an audience that included a selected 20 of the show's contestants and some Chinese celebrities.

    The TV show, whose English title is "The Disciple," is jointly produced by Chan and Beijing TV Station, known as BTV.

    The show will run from March to October, with 10 winners appearing in a movie to be produced by Chan, organizers said. The movie will be released before the 2008 Beijing Olympics, Chan said.
    Of course, we knew about this already....

    Jackie Chan's Disciples - Global Talent Search

    Jackie Chan has launched an international talent search for his new reality talent show Jackie Chan’s Disciples. Ten winners will be named “Descendants of the Dragon” on the show’s finale on top of the Great Wall in October 2007. The Descendants of the Dragon will each be awarded with a film contract, as well as receive personal training from Jackie Chan.

    The U.S.A. competition will be held on Friday, May 27 from 2 to 6 PM at the Wu Chi Kung Fu Academy, 40924 Fremont Blvd., Fremont, CA 94538. Contestants must be a Chinese citizen or Chinese descendants from 18 to 28, be moral and free of bad habits, and unsigned by any entertainment, broker or producing company. They will be judged on their skills in martial arts, dance, vocals, acrobatics, comedy, gymnastics and acting. Registration is $80. Forms can be downloaded at www.IntMAT.com or www.wuchikungfu.com. Submission deadline is May 25th, 2007. Three winners and five runners-up will be selected by the U.S.A. Committee. The U.S.A. Committee: Chair: Tao He, Co-chairs: Ann Woo, Gigi Oh, Tony Chen. A U.S.A. Winner Award Ceremony will be held in June 10th at 6PM at the San Jose Civic Auditorium.

    The three winners will be sent to Beijing to enter the Global Semi-final Competition starting on June 15. The Global Semi-final Competition will consist of 300 candidates selected from different countries will gather in Beijing to be trained under Jackie’s guidance to compete for 40 semi-finalist slots. Global Finals will narrow the field down to 20 finalists. These competitions will be held from June 15th to 25th in Beijing. The Final Competition will be held on top of the Great Wall from September 20th to 29th. For more information, see long.btv.com.cn.
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    You beat me to it...

    I just read JC's remarks about this new show, and I'm surprised the MMA community is not more in an uproar. Particularly this one -

    "A lot of actors are good at fighting but (their style) is not beautiful,". (a la WuShu)

    -just talking here,

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

    We're still waiting for that good MMA movie. In fact, we're still waiting for any other martial movie genre outside of CMA or samurai films to have that significant an impact. Clearly, Thai martial arts films show a lot of promise, but we're only talking about less than half a dozen films. Compare that with the countless kung fu and samurai films that have been released for decades and continue to be made. Even Parkour showed some promise, but like the Thai stuff, we're only talking a handful of films.

    I'm ready for that MMA movie, or more Thai, or more Parkour. I don't think the popular market cares. They just want to see good action. But until they really come forward, we'll be watching more kung fu flicks.

    As for not being beautiful, this is the same misunderstanding that many martial artists had about K-STAR (and perhaps to some degree, Final Fu). It's 'reality' TV, which means that looks totally count. The sexier the contestants, the better the ratings. For both Disciples and K-STAR, they are grooming a new star, so looks definitely count. In this way, it's really more like America's Next Top Model or even Grease: You're the one that I want. They're looking for a whole celebrity package, not just a good fighter. If you want to find good fighters, that's what MMA is for.
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    so how does the lueb get into it? i think i would be awesome
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    Agreed...

    Since it's tv for the masses, I would think it'd be hard to sell serious MMA, but since it's growing somewhat exponentially in popularity, hopefully it won't be too long...

    Thank god for UFC, K1 and Pride. (and Spike for promoting it so)

    Any thoughts on IFL I haven't noticed yet? A fiance of a friend of mine is training with them, and is extremely avid about it. Looks like plain ol' brawlin' IMO.
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    Faking Gene's Birth Certificate

    Gene could pass for 28. He could. A badly worn and tired 28, but 28! We'll dip him in some rioixin or skin tightener or whatever it's called. And the we'll get him entered on the Disciple! Start photoshopping that birth certificate today.

    Oh wait, good moral values and habits. That might be a problem . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    We're still waiting for that good MMA movie. In fact, we're still waiting for any other martial movie genre outside of CMA or samurai films to have that significant an impact.
    What? What about American Ninja and the entire Ninja craze of the 1980s and early 1990s ... no impact?

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    Dudikoff!

    Dudikoff!

    Dudikoff!

    *koff*
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    HEy Gene, have you seen Undisputed 2? I would consider that the definitive MMA movie, but I still think it could be better.
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    kung fu Northern style is the best

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    Of course, we knew about this already....



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    Hi...im new at this but i have 28 years Chow Gar Style northern...
    From Master chow bill one of the best in Northern China....if i go i will be one of the 10 best...im even better than Jackie Chan...I do 56 diifrent styles of forms 3 and 4 and 7 arm dummy ...never been seen before /...I am doing instructional dvd....56 diffrent styles...learn the best of the true northern style art....at www.youcandokungfu.com move over Jackie Chan,..good by jet li....Here comes Marco Revah...Chow gar real style

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    wooden dummy expert...

    Quote Originally Posted by youcandokungfu View Post
    Hi...im new at this but i have 28 years Chow Gar Style northern...
    From Master chow bill one of the best in Northern China....if i go i will be one of the 10 best...im even better than Jackie Chan...I do 56 diifrent styles of forms 3 and 4 and 7 arm dummy ...never been seen before /...I am doing instructional dvd....56 diffrent styles...learn the best of the true northern style art....at www.youcandokungfu.com move over Jackie Chan,..good by jet li....Here comes Marco Revah...Chow gar real style
    Any one want to learn the 4 and 7 arm wooden dummy 256 moves?????
    never been seen before...???

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    riiiiiiiiiiiiiight, so back OT...

    Shaolinlueb, I think you're assuming that this is just about kung fu. It isn't. That's the same problem that many critics had about K-STAR. They assumed it was just about kung fu (or wushu or MMA or whatever). Here in America, we have typecast Jackie as a martial artist only. But in Asia, Jackie is a celebrity on many different levels. In THE MYTH: Jackie Chan's Stir-fries HERO, MUSA and Lara Croft Chop Suey Style, author August West taps this somewhat in his intro. If someone is to be a genuine disciple of Jackie, sure, he or she has got to have some kung fu skills. But there also needs to be singing talent and, well, to quote August, oatcakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Shaolinlueb, I think you're assuming that this is just about kung fu. It isn't. That's the same problem that many critics had about K-STAR. They assumed it was just about kung fu (or wushu or MMA or whatever). Here in America, we have typecast Jackie as a martial artist only. But in Asia, Jackie is a celebrity on many different levels. In THE MYTH: Jackie Chan's Stir-fries HERO, MUSA and Lara Croft Chop Suey Style, author August West taps this somewhat in his intro. If someone is to be a genuine disciple of Jackie, sure, he or she has got to have some kung fu skills. But there also needs to be singing talent and, well, to quote August, oatcakes.

    yeah but his kung fu is so much ebtter then his singing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youcandokungfu View Post
    Any one want to learn the 4 and 7 arm wooden dummy 256 moves?????
    never been seen before...???
    Where is your clip. The video sample doesn't show you moving. Where is your 4 arm and 7 arm wooden dummy DVD for sale?

    If you want to sell, then post a clip and link to buy.

    Better yet, post a clip of you fighting 4 Amazons.

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    I'm surprised Bollywood hasn't tried to cash in the Kalaripayattu card yet...

    The action in Bollywood movies (when it's not dancing action), looks Hong Kongy.

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