Mega red fist?

[Jingwu Man]

Are these forms solo or is the idea to ultimately combine them into one big (mega) red fist form? I've heard both sides, looking for answers.
Ant feedback would be appreciated.

yilu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0WQvT1-_70
erlu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXBLeSjBsnQ
sanlu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncxixSZ60Yw

[LFJ]

it is one large form called dahongquan. it is divided into three sections due to the length, the first of which is generally known and taught.

[Royal Dragon]

I actually think there are more than 3 sections, but yes it's all one form.

[GeneChing]

But yes, Dahong is in three sections. It would be a monster to practice as one big form. I imagine some people practice it that way, but not me. I barely have the stamina to make it through the first form nowadays (I doubt I even remember it ).

[LFJ]

but its the same as the three roads to xiaotongbeiquan. they can be strung together as one or practiced as three separates. and i believe it was originally one form divided into different roads. again, the first of which is generally known or taught.

a similar thing happened to daluohanquan. its 108 movements long. it was cut in half and an ending was added for closure. most people will tell you thats the whole of it but there's more. but its not generally known or taught either.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Shaolin Tai Tzu Chang Chuan is also like that. It is 121 moves long (probably 108 if you delete the redundancies). This set is cut into 3 sections, and ONLY the first is widely known, and mostly butchered into a modern Wushu peformance at that.

If you go back far enough, ORIGINALLY Tai Tzu wasn't even a form, it was just loose techniques. The Shaolin made it into a form when the Emperor asked them to preserve the system for him. They also created the Xiao Hong, and Da Hong sets as a later part of that project, again they were all one single long form originally.

I suspect they did not have sections untill much later, and at first were taught in small groups of one, to maybe 3 techniques at a time untill the student learned them all with useable proficiency.