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Look at my "resume".Originally Posted by mkriii
Am I a MMA ?
Nope, cross trainer yes, for sure.
Of course one persons cross training is anothers MMA.
Basically calling your self a Martial artist ( or fighter if you prefer and IF you fight) is enough of a general blanket term.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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I've trained in Sil Lum Kung Fu for 20 years, wrestled 4 years in high school, and studied BJJ for a year but what I train in regularly is the kung fu. I have been called every thing from a MMArtist to a cross trainer even though I don't really consider my self a MMA or really even some one who cross trains. I dabble a little in grappling but I wouldn't say I train regularly in it. Everytime I try to defend kung fu people say "then why do you dabble in grappling or wrestle?" and the only thing I can say is it's kind of like having insurance, i can use it if I have to.
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Anyone who tells you you didn't use TCMA because you used a choke in a fight is to be pittied for not having a clue and riticuled for spouting off without having thier facts strait... Best just to let them live in thier own la-la land because they can be just as moronic as those who think there is such a thing as a technique too deadly to use.
Bad the Fukc Ass
so i know this is an old thread. But i was going around on the net yesterday watching a bunch of vids of torres. He's really highly respected. I think it was an interview with frank mir, whos opinion was that Torres is, pound for pound, one of the best fighters in the professional world. I watched him drop fighter after fighter on youtube. He's really really good.
Just made me think of this fight, so i rewatched it. Wilson did better than many of Torres' other, pro opponents.
I was not really learned up on torres till i watched bout 6 of his fights, and listened to some interviews.
Just a bump.
Anyone else got any more kungfu in mma vid links they can post?
For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
Bad the Fukc Ass
i dont remember who or where i saw this, but it was some video or article. i believe it was one of the 32nd generation shaolin monks.
anyway, in regards to shaolin boxing what he was saying was;
regardless of where you are with your boxing, you local region and the people within it are going to be a major influence in your boxing. no matter where you are at there will be things in the area that will be aquired into your boxing by sharing and mixing with those that you are in contact with.
of course with the state of global communication, transportation, and the internet, this is even more enhanced past just where you may be living or training.
for instance, many peoples in the americas, north and south, will have some sort of western boxing influence in their martial arts, as we have all been exposed to it.
similar to painting or drawing, when you are constantly exposing yourself to different techniques and artists, you will pick up some new ideas or methods, sometimes you may not even notice the direct link right away.
For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
The Baji Bomber of Xi'an
Ain't that the truth.
My Shifu's biggest "complaint" about my gongfu is that he can't quite seem to erase that "boxing flavor" from my stuff. I've never trained boxing in my life. It's just the way everybody moves in the US. It's a cultural thing. To his eyes, my gongfu doesn't look "Chinese" enough.
aka: Bailewen - 白乐文
Me using Baji in a match
Me performing Dabaji and taking silver at a national comp in China (Got gold medals too but no video)
www.xiangwuhui.com
Bad the Fukc Ass
lol, i have the same 'problem'Ain't that the truth.
My Shifu's biggest "complaint" about my gongfu is that he can't quite seem to erase that "boxing flavor" from my stuff. I've never trained boxing in my life. It's just the way everybody moves in the US. It's a cultural thing. To his eyes, my gongfu doesn't look "Chinese" enough.
its also funny because my frist teacher thought i fought like a karate guy. ive never studied karate!
For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
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Everyone cross trains. That's the 1st M in MMA.ONE FC lightweight Peter Davis wants to prove that Kung Fu can work inside the cage
By James Goyder on Jan 29, 4:00p
Peter Davis lands a spinning back kick to the jaw of Kim Hock - ONE FC
What is Wuji Chuan? Just ask Kim Hock, who had his jaw shattered by the Kung Fu of Peter Davis.
There aren't too many Kung Fu fighters holding their own in mixed martial arts (MMA) but Malaysian lightweight Peter Davis is the exception which proves the rule. He has the sort of traditional martial arts background which fight fans like to mock but no one was laughing last time he fought.
Least of all his Singaporean opponent.
In the sort of move which few fighters would dare to attempt outside of a sparring session, Davis threw a left high kick which missed but simply used the momentum to spin around again and throw a spinning back kick which connected clean with the jaw of Kim Hock. (video)
The performance was perhaps overshadowed by that of his compatriot Adam Kayoom, who won a hard-fought decision victory over Gregor Gracie, not to mention Zorobabel Moreira's controversial knockout of Roger Huerta, but it did wonders for the credibility of Davis who up until that point had been better known in Malaysia as an actor and model.
The 30 year old, who made his MMA debut in 2004, has a very unique philosophy to martial arts which he enjoys applying inside the cage.
"Fighting for me is very creative, I like to try different things and see what works. My style of fighting is Wuji Chuan but what that really means is 'like water,' so you can do whatever you want as long as you can make it flow."
The striking didn't flow quite so freely the first time he fought for ONE FC when he was frustrated by Indonesian wrestler Ngabdi Mulyadi. Davis said he learned from that experience and will never put in such a poor performance again.
"Fortunately, I won the fight by submission but it was my first time fighting at 155 pounds and I have been fighting at 170 since the age of 23 and cutting weight takes a lot of getting used to. I'm sorry I didn't make it more entertaining for the crowd, but I hope I made up for it with my second fight for ONE FC."
The question is whether this 'Wuji Chuan' style will serve Davis as well when he starts to face more experienced opponents, but he believes that with the right training, he has the tools to take on anyone in the lightweight division.
"I am very confident in my striking, so far my style has been effective and I still have a lot more tricks which I haven't had a chance to use yet. Guys like Shinya Aoki and Kotetsu Boku have so much experience, I'd need to work a lot on my wrestling and submissions before I fought either of them but if ONE FC wanted to make the fight then why not?"
He has a very unconventional style and likes to crouch down, switch stances constantly and then lunge in with strikes. It is unusual but effective, as Hock discovered to his cost with the Singaporean's jaw already broken in two places when referee Matt Hume stepped in to save him from further punishment.
Davis will get another opportunity to showcase this skill set against 2-0 Indonesian Leo Krishna at ONE FC: 'Return of Warriors' next week and hopes to carry on where he left off last time with another explosive performance.
"I've been to a decision a couple of times and it sucks! I want to finish this fight in the first round, I know Leo Krishna has good BJJ and has won a lot of competitions and he has said he wants to frustrate me so it's going to be up to me to attack him and I plan to win by KO again."
Davis admits that he does cross train in Muay Thai, boxing and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) but believes that it is his expertise in the obscure martial art known as Wuji Chuan which gives him the edge over opponents who come from more traditional backgrounds.
"Sometimes a trainer look at my stance or the way I do certain things and tell me that I am doing it wrong and try to correct me because my style of fighting is unusual but, so far, it works. Wuji is all about using your instincts and I think it enables you to express yourself more than some martial arts, I try to do stuff that other people haven't seen before because it means they won't be prepared for it."
As a catwalk model with a black belt in Kung Fu the Malaysian does not have the sort of credentials which most MMA fans consider desirable in a fighter. Davis has it all to prove every time he steps inside the cage, particularly after putting in a lacklustre performance on his ONE FC debut, and will need to do something special again at Stadium Putra next Saturday if he is to silence the doubters.
The presence of fighters with unusual or unconventional styles makes the MMA world a much more interesting place and Davis definitely falls into this category. If he can dispense with Krishna in the same style he did Hock then a few more fighters might start to switch Muay Thai and BJJ for some good old fashioned Kung Fu.
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Shaolin Jinnaluo War Cult
You can't call him Kung Fu!!! It doesn't matter how long he trained it, or that he thinks of it as his base, or what techs he draws from it!!! If he cross trains for one day, it's not Kung Fu!!!!
Saving Bacon the trouble....
Shaolin Jinnaluo War Cult
Kung Fu based MMA fighter, Peter Davis, improves to 5-1, (I believe) in Pro MMA. He won another fight in One FC this weekend; on the ground this time, with some dirty fighting. Heel kick to his opponents face; (legal in One FC.) 1st round doctor stoppage.
http://www.mmatko.com/peter-davis-vs...jacked-up-lip/
Bad the Fukc Ass
Don't forget that since its in asia apparently the fights don't count...You can't call him Kung Fu!!! It doesn't matter how long he trained it, or that he thinks of it as his base, or what techs he draws from it!!! If he cross trains for one day, it's not Kung Fu!!!!
Saving Bacon the trouble....
For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.
Shaolin Jinnaluo War Cult
Of course not, only fights in the USA and Brazil count. Anywhere else all fighters are bums.Don't forget that since its in asia apparently the fights don't count...
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Not true. There are kung fu styles based on "cross training"You can't call him Kung Fu!!! It doesn't matter how long he trained it, or that he thinks of it as his base, or what techs he draws from it!!! If he cross trains for one day, it's not Kung Fu!!!!
Saving Bacon the trouble....
Shaolin Jinnaluo War Cult
Obviously, my post you quoted was a bit of satire. Just rehashing an old argument from another thread.
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With title in sight, Bellator 210's Bruna Ellen looking to leave no doubts against Kristina Williams
By: Fernanda Prates | November 28, 2018 7:45 pm
When Bruna Ellen entered the Bellator cage for the first time, at only 20 and only two fights into her MMA career, she wasn’t as intimidated as many would expect a fighter in such conditions to be.
Ellen had, after all, spent a lot of her life taking part kung fu and sanda competitions. She already knew what it was like to venture far from her native Brazil for tournaments, to eat food that she wasn’t used to and to compete in front of crowds that weren’t in her favor.
Still, as the unanimous-decision loss to Jessica Middleton at Bellator 159 reflected, it wasn’t a good night for the flyweight.
“In my (Bellator) debut, I had several problems throughout camp,” Ellen told MMAjunkie. “During the fight, too, I felt weakness, a bunch of things. I got flustered and I went for a takedown, I think in the second round or the first, and I landed underneath her. Even though I had a good head, I felt it.”
Dealing with the unexpected comes with the territory when two people agree to fight each other in a cage. Ellen’s brain, however, clearly had a problem doing that on her first pro loss. So, with the fact of what happened established, she set out to discover the why.
That search led Ellen (4-1 MMA, 2-1 BMMA) to a sports coach, who she’s been working with for the past two years. And, as she rides a two-fight winning streak into Friday’s Bellator 210 appointment with Kristina Williams (2-1 MMA, 2-1 BMMA), it seems to be working.
“Nowadays, my head is a lot better,” Ellen said. “I’m strong not only physically, but mentally, which is even more important – not getting frustrated with anything that happens in the fight. Because there will always be things that we don’t expect. I think we need to program our heads to solve it right away and come up with various solutions, instead of focusing on the problem.
“I’ve learned that and I train it every week. I think it changed everything. Personally, professionally, during training, during the fight, it made a lot of difference.”
When Ellen returns to the cage at WinStar World Casino & Resort in Thackerville, Okla., it will mean the end of a 15-month layoff. That’s hardly the type of time any fighter likes to spend away from the cage – especially a young, otherwise active one like Ellen.
“It was very hard,” Ellen admits, but here’s yet another advantage of her level-headedness; rather than lament the surgery that kept her out of a scheduled meeting with veteran Valerie Letourneau, Ellen says “it only worked to make my hungrier for this one.”
Letourneau would end up going up against Williams, who was no push-over throughout their three-round affair. Still, Letourneau was the one who thrived, thus securing her stab at the flyweight belt that Ilima-Lei Macfarlane currently holds.
But, the way she sees it, Ellen didn’t do too bad for herself, either.
“I’d said I wanted to fight (Williams),” Ellen said. “So when I heard about the fight I liked it, I was happy. I already knew what I had to do. It was good news.”
Ellen likes that Williams has an aggressive, striking-focused style that is similar to hers. That can not only make for a solid scrap, Ellen says, but also present her with the openings to help her accomplish the mission she’s set out to do on Friday.
“Since she always comes in quite open, I can work with that,” Ellen said. “I can work with her attacks. We have a very set strategy with that. I think her game will help me in what I want to do.”
Although “what I want to do” is always, of course, win, Ellen says she isn’t usually too attached to how it happens. With every different opponent comes a different strategy, and the flyweight tries not to let her focus stray too far away from what’s immediately ahead of her.
At the same tome, however, Ellen is not oblivious to her momentum. Or to what it could mean should she convert it into a three-fight winning streak on Friday.
“This fight, in particular, I intend to win well, leaving no doubt,” Ellen said. “Because then I already want to be in the path for the title. I want to finish it within the three rounds.”
Normally, the idea of 22-year-old fighter with only three fights for a major promotion being a world champion could seem a bit out-of-touch with reality. But Ellen’s situation isn’t exactly normal, as a three-fight winning streak in Bellator’s still-building flyweight division certainly means something.
Add to it that this is a main card fight, and that the also relatively inexperienced Williams could have feasibly earned a title shot had she beaten Letourneau, and Ellen’s own stab at the belt could happen soon – “very soon,” Ellen believes.
It’s been a fast road here, Ellen assesses. But, with circumstances and “a really good head” on her side, she also believes things are happening just in time.
“I’m going after the belt and I’m going to work even harder to keep it, which is the hardest part,” Ellen said.
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