Cai Longyun on youtube!

[golden arhat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHJ4DP_LJJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtcHidwCzcw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_dWKcYDWgE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXkvYLA7enk

4 part interview

enjoy

[golden arhat]

Ooops sorry u have to speak mandarin

anyone wanna translate ?

[B-Rad]

What's his background? I remember the name but not the details

[golden arhat]

helped invent modern wushu

beat a russian kick boxer

northern stylist dnt remmebr exactly
he was on the cover of kfm last year

[Oso]

attributed with creating or helping to create the form Babu Lian Hua according to my shifu. though he said there was some cloudiness about it.

[NorthernShaolin]

He also wrote several books on Wah Chuan in the 1950's: numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4.

[K.Brazier]

Very nice to hear him talk. He sounds like he knows what he is talking about.

"Do you dare to strike?...
'I dare!'

That is the beginning he tells us.

In training we learn how to move by learning stationary postures. This is the idea I posted in this article. It is an explanation of old quotes of MA.

http://www.plumflowermantisboxing.co...pportunity.htm

He goes into a lot on how important it is or each posture to be done properly and he explains why. In a nutshell, when the stance is proper the energy can be properly focused in the proper direction.

Otherwise the enrgy goes in the wrong direction or is disapated without allowing your body to sink to the earth.

He goes into more depth tough explaining 5 lines of force existing within each posture.


"Having strengh is important...

"all moves have an application.

"The coach needs to tell the student what the applications are.

For each posture the head has to look at a specific place with the eyes focused on something. He gives an example of a throw and why the eyes must look at your own foot.

When I punch with my right hand your right hand can attack my left temple. In other words each attack of mine leaves a part of my body unprotected and I need to know what that is.

Reaction time must be trained so that I can punch the opponents undefended area the moment he attacks.

There is a training method for this. You don't train it for every move, but enough of the moves to develop your speedy reaction time.

When the punch comes at you it will be impossible to tell what it is, but you still need the trainng of reaction time.

You should be able to dodge the opponents attacks, but if you can't your body needs to be strong enuf to withstand his blows.

In other words, all the MA trainng still boils down to a tool to make you a better fighter.

So paida, hitting the body, training is a requirement.

Some poor paraphrases and translations.

Nothing on babu lian huan...

Kevin

[lkfmdc]

Just had a minute to listen, very good stuff, intro says he does "pure shaolin", wah kuen, taiji, hsing yi and, uh, I forget what else....

Like a lot of the old guys, he's direct, very little BS in there

[Sal Canzonieri]

There is a lot of confusion over where exactly the forms
2-man 18 Luohan Hands and Babu Lian Huan Quan were developed from.

Supposedly he "created" them, but that is what people assume.

His family style is Wah Quan, going way back to Tang Dynasty ancestors, from a ex-knight.

But, there is a Shaolin Luohan set of loose collection of 18 techniques with no specific order of the movements, they can be done in combination as needed. It is more a set that is used to practice Luohan applications.
Anyways, every one of the movements of Cai's 18 Luohan set is found in this Shaolin loose collection routines.
This Shaolin set is said to be from around the late Yuan Dynasty time, it is maybe the Luohan moves that were used by Jue Yuan, Bai Yu Feng, and Li Su to create the new Shaolin style that is based on the elements (animals).

And, when you examine Cai's 18 Luohan, the first five movements are indeed the five elements, AND in the ancient order: Metal, Water, Wood, Fire, and Earth, not the order seen today as in Hebei Xing Yi, where wood is second and water and earth movements are exchanged.
The first movement, uses splitting technique, Metal, Pi.
The second, uses drilling, Water, Zuan - Crane.
The third, uses shooting, Wood, Bang.
The fourth, uses exploding, Fire, Pao.
The fifth, uses intertwining, Earth, Heng.

I would think that the Ba Bu Lian Huan set would have a similar origin, but I think he took it from Wah Quan sets (even though this set is practiced as part of Shaolin curriculum).

There was interexchange between Wah Quan practioners and Shaolin way back when.

Cai did say in the interview that it was Shaolin stuff.

[GeneChing]

Kungfu Tai Chi 2005 November/December

The Big Dragon with the Magic Fists - China’s Great Grandmaster Cai Longyun By Gigi Oh and Gene Ching

[Oso]

Kevin, thanks for some insight into the interview. I guess it would be a huge project to transcribe it. Pretty cool for us as we do both his BBLH and Shaolin 18. I just did get a hold of a copy of the small book he did for the Shaolin series and it's very interesting and more than someone enlightening to read it.


AND in the ancient order: Metal, Water, Wood, Fire, and Earth,

Sal, what exactly are you saying here? What is the 'new' order?

I was taught this order for practice in the small bit of xingyi I learned but starting with wood and working through to water as last....what's the difference? I was taught this order as the 'creative' order....if it's a 'circle' of creation does it matter where you start on the circle?

ok..that's probably a ho nuther thread on the IA forum.....