I read these postings with a bit of sadness and disgust. 5 family style is a style meant to bring people together. I live in a different part of the world but share thoughts with others. I don't know why my name is used with conflict with others. Ron have a big problem with respect from others. Ron say he a sifu. Where, and with any student? The student I would think have a certain veiw of him. Ma Seming is GM Ark Yuey Wong grandson, with the right to pass on the style with those that were picked by his grandfather. I am not familiar with what is being said but I look at the years you talk about and they don't seem right. Sifu Jim and Sifu Ron you are both teachers of the 5 family style ..? Then you are both in your late 70's . I think. How can this be . And to have your attitude of disrespect for these others. They follow you from forum to forum.. Why ? This is supposed to be a forum to pass on information and have camaraderie.. I think you missed the point of it. I see nothing worthwhile pass from your lips. You have only, what seems to me to be misinformation. you have given wrong names to things and make me not beleive you are at the level you are asking to be looked at. again, why do you use my name ? If I have anything to pass just ask. I will tell you my teachers, my students, my history. I have nothing to hide and have many friends who would tell you the same thing. I think I have knowledge that others would find useful to help their training. I am familiar with your style. Only little change and that is expected. I like to use the English to explain things. I use Mandarin and make everybody confuse.. Not my plan. sifus Ron & Jim, I don't see you explain anything about your style, only want to take to use for you. I hope you answer this.. I really want to know why you use my name ...