Ark Yuey Wong- list of lineage/style holders?

[Jim Anestasi]

Hi;Kal
I don't remember the name,But it's possible.My training began 1958 to 68. GMWong opened the Wah Que Studio in 1964.Black Belt Mag. did a story on Sifu Wong ,My name is mentioned twice. I had studied at ED Parker school for about 6 mo.,I asked GM Wong if he knew him ? he said he didn't. I remember Jimmy Woo at the time & the break up.
Around 65 we had alot of visitors Dan Inosanto ,Bruce Lee,Douglas Wong,And many others .Ark Wong met Ed Parker at the first MA tournament At Long Beach Auditorium,AS far as I can remember, Bruce Lee gave a demo of Jeet Chuan Do.
Splashing hands was never mentioned in my presence, It was more of an Islander thing. I heard he may have taken some private lessons at one time?.Btw Sifu John Leoing student won the tournament His Name was Buna? not sure.


FWIW, Sifu jim.

[bakxierboxer]

Around 65 we had alot of visitors Dan Inosanto ,Bruce Lee,Douglas Wong,And many others .Ark Wong met Ed Parker at the first MA tournament At Long Beach Auditorium,AS far as I can remember, Bruce Lee gave a demo of Jeet Chuan Do.
Splashing hands was never mentioned in my presence, It was more of an Islander thing. I heard he may have taken some private lessons at one time?.Btw Sifu John Leoing student won the tournament His Name was Buna? not sure.
FWIW, Sifu jim.

John Leoning's student Carlos Bunda.
Carlos' student Rick Kinji won it a couple more times.

[Oso]

I studied Sil Lum in the Ark Wong lineage. Blue Ridge Kung Fu Arnis Association. GM Rick Ward's school's. http://www.blueridgekungfuinternatio...dquarters.com/

The guy in Cali you're probably referring to is Rick Ward's teacher, I think his name is David Wood but I can't remember right now. Anyway, he has been ill and to my knowledge no longer teaches, you could try calling Blue Ridge headquarters and perhaps they can steer you in the right direction.

Good luck!

That would be Alan (not David) Wood and so far, I've not found any proof of a connection between Wood and Sifu Wong...been looking for a while now.

fyi, the best link to 'sil lum' via BRKF is through Sifu Ward -> Sifu Pedlahore...the crane, tiger and combo forms you might know are from Pedlahore, not Wong.


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this is possibly the best conversation I've ever read on KFM. Please, gentleman, keep it up and thank you for the candidness and information. It's great to read about the beginnings of martial arts in the US.

[bakxierboxer]

That would be Alan (not David) Wood and so far, I've not found any proof of a connection between Wood and Sifu Wong...been looking for a while now.

fyi, the best link to 'sil lum' via BRKF is through Sifu Ward -> Sifu Pedlahore...the crane, tiger and combo forms you might know are from Pedlahore, not Wong.

this is possibly the best conversation I've ever read on KFM. Please, gentleman, keep it up and thank you for the candidness and information. It's great to read about the beginnings of martial arts in the US.

Ah... try "David Cash" also in the Blue Ridge area at one time.
He claimed a lot from Wong Ark Yuey, but I don't believe he ever really taught much of it... if any. AFAIK, it was mostly a mail-order deal.

[Oso]

i was staying away from the 'K' word...


the school in question claims lineage from Wong via Alan Wood and David Kash. None of which is substantiated, afaik.


...pardon me while I gird my loins and prepare the claymores....






oh, Kash never lived in the Blue Ridge...Winston Salem. Still there I think.


I sense an eminant PM or email....

[bakxierboxer]

i was staying away from the 'K' word...

the school in question claims lineage from Wong via Alan Wood and David Kash. None of which is substantiated, afaik.

...pardon me while I gird my loins and prepare the claymores....



oh, Kash never lived in the Blue Ridge...Winston Salem. Still there I think.

I sense an eminant PM or email....

Not from me....
Guess this just shows how little I know of the geography back there.
I've been considering checking the area out for relocating.... maybe I'd better get some facts straight.
"Little things" like weather, real estate prices, etc.

[Steeeve]

John Leoning's student Carlos Bunda.
Carlos' student Rick Kinji won it a couple more times.

Kajukenbo here from Sijo Emperado

Steeve

[Oso]

wasn't expecting one from you.


if you're thinking about relocating to NC, send me an email and I'll help with insider info as much as I can.

mmelton@ashevillemartialarts.com

[Scott R. Brown]

Hi Jim A.,

When you have the time would you please take a moment to read this thread? It is a question I asked nearly two years ago concerning a form supposed called the Yatchi Kune.

If you have any information concerning this form I would appreciate it if you would share it.

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ht=Yatchi+Kune

Thank you,

[Steeeve]

For cantonese its probably YatTsin Kuen (1000 fist)....but no prunonciation here ...I mean the phonetic is important in chinese ..... thats came YET tsin The t is very fast so almost tchi anyway ....

Steeve

[Jim Anestasi]

Hello ,Scott I don't know if I can Help you or not, I looked in all of my form information and the only thing i can reference is this, First Power Fist or First eight power hand.
The movements and the direction are in the shape as if you draw a cross,then two diagonal lines give you the eight movements.I'm not sure but it might be something quite different I was taught so many sets or forms that it hard to recall them all,so I went to my list.

Hope this helps, Sifu Jim

[Steeeve]

Here Sifu Jim

You probably talk about the gung lik chuan (power fist forms) of the northern shaolin ....you could find it different version in
praying mantis ,eagle claw , and so on do it ....the 8 step or whatever are the trademark of northern style like ba gua ,Baji Quan and so on

No disrecpect here ....You learned other kung fu style before GM Wong ???

for no confusion ....here I talk or write in my name like every time i write here .....nothing to do with my sifu...

Steeve

[Scott R. Brown]

Thank You Jim and Steeeve for taking the time to read the post and give me your thoughts.

[Steeeve]

Scott Your welcome

In my ng ga kuen lineage ...we dont have this form .....maybe its the name of one of our basics routine ... but dont know .....everybody give some chinese names for look .....

The curriculum(forms) is

Salute
small cross
Butterfly
combinaition
black bird
the palm

And the five animals

plus the weapons ,two men forms ...and so on just to give a idea ...

not quantity but quality

Steeve

[Jim Anestasi]

Hello Steeve: I found some more papers from the old days ,here is a list of term's as they were told to me by GM Ark Yuey Wong.
[stances]
shi ping ma - front horse
ping gee ma - straight horse
song go ma - side horse
neu gee ma - twist horse
deu ma - hanging horse
[ natural weapons]
yeet chuan - punch with fist
chuan - fist
shou - hand
chong - elbow
que shou - bridge hand
cheung - palm push
peet shou - cut with edge of hand
chop - shou - straight hand stab
pea ya - kick
gai shlim chuey - chicken heart fist
fu jow - tiger claw
dok shir leum lee - snake tounge
hok juey - crane hand
tao chuan - knife hand
[ gar] styles
choy, lee, mok, fut, hung
[ animals]
fu tiger
lung - dragon
hok - crane
pao - leopard
shir - snake
My spelling or pronunciation is probably wrong but these are phonetically taken as Master Wong spoke them in cantonese.
Thanks for reading , Sifu Jim.
Btw, I found some old pictures of the early days, one picture is with Jimmy Woo,San Soo fame standing in front of Sifu's store & another of my wife & Sifu Wong in San Francisco.