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    Red Cliff

    John Woo's Three Kingdoms epic seems to be really struggling.

    Chow Yun-Fat Walks Off John Woo's 'Red Cliff' During Production
    Posted Apr 17th 2007 1:01PM by Christopher Campbell

    The image It made perfect sense: John Woo's return to Chinese-language cinema was to star Chow Yun-Fat, who last collaborated with the director on the Hong Kong action classic Hard Boiled. The new film (or films, as it might be too long for just one), titled The Battle of Red Cliff, is an historical war epic set in the year 208, and Chow was to play Zhou Yu, the chief strategist for the Kingdom of Wu. But Chow has just walked off the production, which has already begun shooting, and the actor and the producers have different interpretations of why he has left so abruptly.

    According to Chow, his departure was due to his inability to prepare for the role; he claims he only last week received the script. Producer Terence Chang, on the other hand, says that Chow's demands were too high and that he walked because he didn't get what he wanted. The script handed to Chow last week was merely a revision to one the actor had been given last year. Another topic of conflict is Chow's salary. According to the actor, he took a pay cut and was being paid in installments. Chang says the actor was to be paid $5 million plus royalties.

    Chow also pointed out that his contract followed the model he uses on Hollywood films and implied that Red Cliff's producers need to get used to the way things are done in Hollywood. As if abandoning the director who made him an international star wasn't enough, he had to go and confirm that he's now too important to go back to his roots. Of course, anyone familiar with Bulletproof Monk and Anna and the King can attest to Chow's true significance to Hollywood's audiences. Chow is now the third big name to be removed from Red Cliff; previously Ken Watanabe and Tony Leung were also involved, but each dropped out for different reasons. Anyway, if you were really dying to see another collaboration between Woo and Chow, there's always the new video game Stranglehold, which hits stores this summer.
    Here's an earlier post
    Woo Casts Four in The Battle of Red Cliff

    John Woo has cast Chow Yun-Fat, Ken Watanabe, Tony Leung Chiu-Wai and Taiwanese supermodel Lin Chi-Ling in his Chinese costumer, The Battle of Red Cliff, a co-production with the China Film Group.

    Based on the classic Chinese novel “Romance of the Three Kingdoms,” the film is set in the final days of the Han Dynasty in the year 208 and covers the war that established the Three Kingdoms period, when China had three rulers.

    Historians reckon 1 million soldiers took part in the original battle of Red Cliff. Woo plans to set up six units to simultaneously shoot various scenes for the war epic.

    Woo is again teaming with longtime associate Terence Chang to make the film, which is aiming for release in the runup to the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

    “Red Cliff” is due to start shooting in March from a screenplay by Wang Hui-ling (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon).
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    i think i talked about this on another thread

    yeah i've been talking about it for a while. the cast keeps switching up because of scheduling chow yun fat was gonna be in it but he droped out and people keep leaving and coming back. gotta friend who is working on this and he said, that he mentioned to john that there is a very popular game in the us based off of the novel, he was intrigued by it. that actually might be the selling point for the states. but the chinese version is gonna be released in two two hour parts and where just gonna get one film. which sucks

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    I know Doug

    I was tempted to pluck some of your posts about this on other threads and compile them here, but it was too complicated. Nevertheless, I think Red Cliff needs its own thread here, so now you have a place to post them.
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    more




    http://bp0.blogger.com/_sta5TiWPdIs/...battlecost.jpg

    the last one is of the actor playing cao cao

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    even more

    here some secret pics of takeshi kaneshiro as zhuge liang, can't say where i got it. cause the person might get in trouble if it was known it was him but he posted it on his site so:

    http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/869/3948553qa7.jpg
    http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8379/1825462vb3.jpg
    http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4308/1825461ti0.jpg

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    3-D live TV?

    Another update. I'm still into this project. It's a good excuse to reread Three Kingdoms.

    China channel pumps up 'Cliff'
    CCTV to broadcast footage from Woo film
    By CLIFFORD COONAN
    BEIJING -- The movie channel of Chinese state broadcaster CCTV will broadcast 2½ hours of live footage from the set of John Woo's latest pic, "Red Cliff," which is shooting near Beijing.

    China Film, one of the investors in what is the most expensive Asian movie of all time with a budget of $80 million, told the Beijing Times that CCTV's movie channel would show the "real-time film sequence" on Nov. 17 and pic's stars would be present on that day.

    Funding for "Red Cliff" comes entirely from independent producers in the region -- China Film, CMC Entertainment in Taiwan, Avex in Japan and South Korea's Showbox.

    Shooting began in April, and the pic marks a return to Chinese-language movies for Woo. Shooting in China has been dogged by bad weather, and the project has had to overcome some serious casting changes, with longtime Woo collaborator Chow Yun-fat dropping out and Tony Leung leaving and then returning to the production.

    Other Asian stars taking part in the pic include Takeshi Kaneshiro, Zhang Fengyi, Chiling Lin, Chang Chen, Vicky Zhao and Hu Jun. All will feature in the live broadcast, the report said.

    "Red Cliff" is based on a segment of the sprawling classic Chinese novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" and is set in the final days of the Han Dynasty, in the year 208, covering the war that established the Three Kingdoms period, when China had three rulers.

    Film experts and historians will be on hand to explain certain cinema techniques and the historical background to the story, and the live broadcast will incorporate 20 documentary films to help educate auds, it said.

    The production is moving to Yixian Reservoir in Hebei to shoot the climax of the movie, and the Movie Channel will broadcast a number of sequences of the shooting, promising "multi-angle and 3-D live broadcast, revolving around the working scenes."
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    Well, you know we are all going to find a way to get ahold of the 2 part Chinese version.

    Also, I love to play Dynasty Warriors with a friend.

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    pics & vids

    Go to the article for the pics and links to the sina.com vids.

    'Red Cliff' Stills and Videos

    China’s CCTV Movie Channel broadcasts 150 minutes of real time film sequence of the movie ‘Red Cliff’ on November 17 (Saturday). It is the first time in China's television history to broadcast such a long, large-scale and real time film sequence. Tony Leung acting as Zhou Yu, Hu Jun acting as Zhao Yun, and Chang Chen acting as Sun Quan are on site. Takeshi Kaneshiro acting as Zhuge Liang, Chiling acting as Xiao Qiao, and Zhao Wei acting as Sun Shangxiang are absent.

    Red Cliff, directed by John Woo, is the most expensive movie in Asian film history. It has become the focus of media attention since it was launched this April. You can see the videos on Sina.com (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).
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    man i hope this film does well. with john i'm sure it'll be good we haven't really scene him do his thing in a while.

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    gonna need the extra big popcorn for a 4 hour flick...

    There better be an intermission so I can go potty...

    John Woo's rocky return to China
    Written by Clifford Coonan
    Monday, 10 December 2007

    BEIJING -- When "Red Cliff" filmmakers look over the edge, they can finally see the finish line. After a production schedule blasted by thesp-scheduling issues and appalling weather, the biggest Chinese movie of all time is now substantially in the can, although some shooting on the John Woo-helmed pic will continue until February.

    Terence Chang, the pic's producer and Woo's partner in Lion Rock Entertainment, says shooting officially wrapped Nov. 30, but some second unit work remained to be done, and he doubted the pic would be ready in time for Cannes next year.

    "We'll deliver it in May, but maybe it won't be quite ready. ... It's been a long shoot but we're in pretty good shape," Chang says.

    "Red Cliff" is Woo's first Chinese-language effort after years in Hollywood helming projects such as "Broken Arrow," "Face/Off" and "Mission: Impossible 2." With a budget of $80 million, "Cliff" is the most expensive movie ever made in Asia, with funding coming entirely from independent producers in the region -- China's China Film, CMC Entertainment in Taiwan, Avex in Japan and South Korea's Showbox.

    This story is based on part of the classic Chinese novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms." Set in the final days of the Han Dynasty, in the year 208, it covers the war that established the Three Kingdoms period, when China had three rulers.

    The production has been dogged by difficulties, many of them weather-related -- torrential rains washed away part of an outdoor set in Hebei in northern China -- but some linked to the myriad personnel changes on the film.

    In March, Tony Leung Chiu-wai ("Lust, Caution") dropped out of the pic. At the time, he says he felt unable to commit to the six-month shoot "Red Cliff" demanded, and he was replaced by Takeshi Kaneshiro. Soon afterwards, close Woo ally Chow Yun-fat ankled.

    The circumstances of Chow's departure remain mysterious -- Chinese media say it was because of unreasonable demands by the thesp and conditions that completion bond company CineFinance could not accept. Chow countered, saying the same firm bonded him twice before with the same requirements.

    It came as a shock, given that Woo made Chow a legend -- establishing him as Hong Kong's Robert De Niro in movies such as the 1986 pic "A Better Tomorrow" and "Hard Boiled."

    Then, two days after Chow ankled, Leung was back in the lineup as lead actor, replacing Chow. The remaining cast includes Zhang Fengyi, Chiling Lin, Chang Chen, Vicky Zhao and Hu Jun.

    CineFinance became involved in the production, but Cheng denies speculation that the completion bond company had taken over the picture.

    There have also been rumors of deaths on the set, which Cheng rejects. "That's the first I've heard of it," he says.

    "Red Cliff" is written as a four-hour film. For Asian territories, the pic is to be split into two parts, with the first released in July in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Korea, and October in Japan.

    Auds outside Asia will get a single movie, expected to clock in at 2½ hours, coinciding with the release of the second part in Asia in December next year.

    Repped in international territories by L.A.-based Summit Entertainment, the pic was widely sold at Berlin's European Film Market, but still has no North American distributors.

    "I don't want to discuss sales until I have a film to show," Chang says.
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    Didn't know this about the Promise...

    How do you say carbon offsets in mandarin?

    "Red Cliff" to Recover After Battle
    2007-12-17 21:41:16
    John Woo's upcoming historical epic "Battle of Red Cliff" is not going to be another environment killer, said one of the film's producers.

    Shooting of the ancient war film wrapped up on Monday at Yishui Lake, in northern China's Hebei province, where all the sets were burned to construct one of the film's biggest scenes.

    Construction of the sets took half a year, and clearing up the residue will be just as time-consuming, noted the unnamed producer, who stressed that the film's crew is determined to return the location to what it once was.

    Director Chen Kaige's 2005 blockbuster film, "The Promise," was widely criticized for the environmental damage it caused while filming in southwestern Yunnan Province, where it left behind a large amount of on-set waste.

    In April this year, the country's top authority for radio, film and television issued a rule banning all film and television shoots from natural reserves, scenic areas and historical sites around the country.
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    Someday I hope to be at Cannes

    Jack Black was on Leno last night pushing Kung Fu Panda. He said it was Cannes like 'can of beans' not Cannes like 'Wrath of Khan'.

    "Red Cliff" to embark voyage to Cannes

    It's still two months before the public release of John Woo's "Red Cliff". The high-profile production plans a visit to Cannes for the upcoming film festival.

    Producer Terence Chang and lead actor Hu Jun showed up at the press conference. Hu plays general Zhao Yun in the production by the internationally acclaimed John Woo.

    It took eight months to finish all his scenes. That's longer than planned. But Wood says the extension was due to Hu's excellent performance. The battle of Changbanpo, is a key part of the plot and took up a good deal of the production time.

    Hu Jun, Actor, said, "We spent about three seasons shooting that part. The director and producer were impressed by Zhao Yun, and added weight to the role. We started in the spring and filmed through summer and fall."

    Posters been released to the public seems to enhance the stature of Zhao Yun. The new image sets a stark contrast to previous versions adaptations.
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    I hate to hear this...

    ...what a tragic way to go.

    Stuntman dies during "Red Cliff" filming
    Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:28am EDT
    By Alex S. Dai

    SHANGHAI (Hollywood Reporter) - A stuntman died and six crew members were injured Monday in a fire on the set of John Woo's "Red Cliff."

    Co-producer Lion Rock Prods. said the accident occurred while a scene was being shot that involved a burning ship crashing into another ship. High winds caused the fire to quickly grow out of control, engulfing both ships in flames.

    The accident took place at about 3 a.m. in Xiaotang Shan, on the outskirts of Beijing.

    "The crew of 'Red Cliff' is deeply distraught and full of regret," Lion Rock said. "Every effort is being made to make arrangements for the deceased, his family and the injured crew members."

    Woo received news of the accident while in Hong Kong promoting Part 1 of the two-part film, set for release in early July in most of Asia. He is traveling back to Beijing to assess the situation and complete filming.

    "Red Cliff" is billed as China's largest production to date. The $80 million historical drama is a co-production between U.S.-based Lion Rock, China Film Group and Japan's Avex Entertainment.

    The film stars Hong Kong actor Tony Leung, China's Zhang Fengyi and Taiwan's Takeshi Kaneshiro.
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    July 3rd

    Sichuan is where the quake happened.

    "Red Cliff" to Come Out Huge
    2008-06-25 20:58:46

    Director John Woo wants his new film "Red Cliff" to have a memorable opening, and the construction of a massive set where the film will premiere started one week ahead of time.

    The tourism hotspot Wuhou Memorial Temple in Chengdu, Sichuan Province, where "Red Cliff" will have its global premiere on July 3, welcomed on Wednesday the arrival of ten cargo trucks loaded with equipment, West China Metropolis Daily reports.

    On the trucks were sound and stage lighting instrument worth over one million yuan (145,679 U.S. dollars), the newspaper says.

    At the center stage, workers have repainted the old red wall, and in the following days they will install complex stage decorations and several LCD walls.

    Because "Red Cliff" is about a historical battle in 208 AD during the Three Kingdoms period, rows of ancient battle drums will be displayed at the sides of the stage.

    On the night of the premiere, the number of performers will excel 2,000, West China Metropolis Daily says. A hundred relief workers of the Sichuan earthquake will be invited to the event, and ten of them will walk the red carpet with film stars.

    Wuhou Memorial Temple was chosen to host the premiere because it was built to pay tribute to Zhuge Liang, a legendary military strategist in the Three Kingdoms period who is one of the protagonists in "Red Cliff," portrayed by Takeshi Kaneshiro.

    The film, to be released in two segments, also features Tony Leung, Chang Chen, Chiling Lin, and Zhao Wei.
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