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    Please....

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post

    Notice, however, you droll naysayers, how poorly that same submission wrestler fared in a full contact tournament against a stand-up Chinese martial artist:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1A7ecS7rs0

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    Think about it...

    .....and look at the symbols that represent Taoism, Tai Ji , Xin Yi ,and Bagua. Those are the strategic patterns used in all Chinese "Kung Fu". They are not two dimensional. They are MULTI -DIMENSIONAL. Explore the quantum mind and you will know the TRUTH.
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    Saying you can take stand-up principles and apply them on the ground (which is wrong, anyway) is not the same as having a ground fighting system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonH View Post
    The principles of stand up fighting with taijiquan can easily be applied to ground fighting, epecially when you are on the bottom, whether on your back or not.
    How often do you do it? How much of your class time is spent exploring Tai Chi principles against wrestlers...against submission experts?

    How often do you even fight full-contact stand-up in your Tai Chi class?

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    I think just about anyone who knows what they are talking about is lauging at you right now.


    In the book Chinese Fast Wrestling, Liang Shou Yu shows a guard pass that would result in the guard passer being caught in a triangle.


    It was a good effort, but he didn't discuss the detail that you need to pin the opposite leg down when passing.
    Bless you

  6. #36

    Hmmm....

    Quote Originally Posted by bodhitree View Post
    tatooedmonk

    I think just about anyone who knows what they are talking about is lauging at you right now.


    In the book Chinese Fast Wrestling, Liang Shou Yu shows a guard pass that would result in the guard passer being caught in a triangle.


    It was a good effort, but he didn't discuss the detail that you need to pin the opposite leg down when passing.
    I doubt it.
    Would or could result??
    I would not make the same mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    Saying you can take stand-up principles and apply them on the ground (which is wrong, anyway) is not the same as having a ground fighting system.
    Whatever... you have no clue and stop acting like you do. you are looking at it from a modern sport perspective not from a ancient combat and philosophical perspective . The ground fighting aspects are inherent in the systems of Kung Fu.








    Get a clue.

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    Have you ever rolled with wrestlers, bjjers, judoka, samboists, etc., ? I really doubt it.
    Bless you

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    How often do you do it? How much of your class time is spent exploring Tai Chi principles against wrestlers...against submission experts?

    How often do you even fight full-contact stand-up in your Tai Chi class?
    I would say at least half the time.

    Do you Know the difference between full-contact and full-force ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhitree View Post
    Have you ever rolled with wrestlers, bjjers, judoka, samboists, etc., ? I really doubt it.
    Oh so now you can see all and know all by a few posts and a thread or two?? Give it a rest. And yes I have and I **** them off everytime.

    You all have to stop thinking with in the box of what it is known to the outside world . I bet dollars to donuts that you are a keyboard martial artist and /or a hobbyist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattooedmonk View Post
    I would say at least half the time.

    Do you Know the difference between full-contact and full-force ??
    This guys living in delusion. He reminds me of Dr. Painter Ph.d.

    Please go to a wrestling/bjj/judo practice and challange one of them.
    Bless you

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattooedmonk View Post
    And yes I have and I **** them off everytime.
    So how come you haven't been to Abu Dhabi yet? A guy as skilled as you should clean up against those chumps.

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    this guy is laughing at you
    Bless you

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhitree View Post
    MK

    this guy is laughing at you
    *curls into fetal position and sucks thumb *

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    too much to read
    i am going to say this
    CMA dont have ground fighting because we chinese never fall to the ground =D
    you must train more and harder if you do fall on the ground
    hahaha
    jk jk
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