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    Awesome, go Gene Any hints as to what systems will be involved?
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    It's a lot of Sichuan stuff

    If you've been following the mag, you'll know that we've been working with Wu Xinliang (I mentioned this above). He was key to the acquisition of these videos. Since he's based in Sichuan now, a lot of the Grandmasters that he chose to spotlight are from there. It's thirteen Grandmasters featured in eighteen videos.

    I'll have more on this very soon.
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    The Legendary Grandmasters of China

    Grandmaster Lu Zijian: Taiyi Fire Dragon Fist (taiyi huolong quan 太乙火龙掌)
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    Grandmaster Zhao Ziqiu: Dragon Style Eight-Diagram Palm (bagua longxing zhang 八卦龙形掌)
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    Grandmaster Wang Shutian: Eight-Diagrams Free-Hand Broadsword (bagua sanshou dao 八卦散手刀)
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    Grandmaster Peng Yuanzhi: Great Practice Fist (dalianquan 大练拳)
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    Grandmaster Gao Chunhe: Hong Gate Hands (hongmenshou 洪门手)
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    Grandmaster Gao Chunhe: Wusong Hands (Wusongshou 武松手)
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    Grandmaster Huang Ruimu: Center Post and Eight Hammers (zhong zhuang ba chui 中桩八捶)
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    Grandmaster Peng Gaoji: Arhat Fist (luohanquan 罗汉拳)
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    Grandmaster Zhang Shaobo: New Hong Fist (xin er lu hong quan 新二路红拳)
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    Grandmaster Lin Xuan: Xingyi Six Harmony Fist (xingyi liuhequan 形意六合拳)
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    Grandmaster Lin Xuan: Rising Dragon Cannon (tilongpao 提龙炮)
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    Grandmaster Ma Zhendai: Xingyi Eight Methods (xingyi bashi 形意八式)
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    Grandmaster Wang Dengzhou: Single Whip Saves the Master (dan bian jiu zhu quan erlu 单鞭救主拳二路)
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    Grandmaster Wang Dengzhou: Five Tigers Descend on the West River (wu hu xia xi chuan 五虎下西川)
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    Grandmaster Wang Dengzhou: Lianbuquan (练步拳)
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    Grandmaster Yang Wenzhang: Six-Harmony Fist (liuehquan 六合拳)
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    Grandmaster Yang Yuntian: Advancing Flower Post Fist (hua jin zhuang quan 花进桩拳)
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    Grandmaster Zhang Shaobai: Flower Strikes to Four Gates (huadasimen 花打四门)
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    These titles should be available for your purchase by October.
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    Epoch Times on Lu Zijian

    Tomatoes. Raw tomatoes. Of course!

    The Martial Arts Master Who Has Lived in Three Centuries
    The Epoch Times
    Sep 09, 2007

    He is a legendary man whose life has crossed three centuries. Born in the 19th year of Emperor Guangxu's Reign of the Qing Dynasty (1893), he is 114 years old. His name is Lu Zijian and he lives in Chongqing City, Sichuan Province, China. Despite his age, he is healthy and lithe. Once considered one of the top three gong fu masters, Lu is adept at martial arts and can still move a young man of around 150 pounds 15 feet away with just one push. When asked what his secret to longevity is, Mr. Lu said, "The key to a long and healthy life is a combination of movement and stillness—cultivating life by guiding the qi, the vital energy in the body, and moving the hands and feet through practicing Chinese boxing." According to Xinmin Evening News, Lu Zijian started learning martial arts with his mother at the age of seven, and in 1920 the 27-year-old Lu won the martial arts contest held at Yuhuatai, Nanjing City. He became famous in Shanghai in the 1930s and was granted Level Nine status—the top rank in Chinese martial arts.

    Lu Zijian never tires of reliving his past. He fought foreigners on two occasions, and before each of the competitions he signed a waiver that said no one was responsible should a death occur during the fight. The first foreigner was an American named Tom, who was over six feet tall. The two men battled for more than an hour and still there was no clear winner. Lu's hands were badly scratched when one of his disciples called out, "Master, use Eight Trigram Palm!" Lu recalled, "I was in a hell of a fight and had become confused." When his mind became clearer he began to walk around Tom, using Eight Trigram, and finally hit Tom's chest with his palm. Tom stumbled backward a few steps then fell to the ground, blood gushing from his mouth. The second fight was with a Japanese Tae Kwon Do master in Shanghai. He was simply no match for Lu and ended up in worse shape than Tom.

    Lu is the only unschooled martial arts master who has been granted Level Nine status by the China Martial Arts Association. Since he turned 86 years old Lu has attended every martial arts contest he could. When he was 93, he joined the Martial Arts Training Team of Sichuan Province and took part in the National Martial Arts Competition held in Sichuan.

    Many articles on the Internet call Lu "the Great Master of the Yangtze River," joining the ranks of Huo Yuanjia, the Great Master of Eastern River, and Du Xinwu, the Great Master of the Yellow River. Mr. Lu is still capable and travels all over China. When he matches wrist strength with strong younger men, he is able to beat them easily. When he walks or climbs a mountain, he feels light as a feather.

    A close-up look at Mr. Lu reveals that his face is almost free of wrinkles and his skin has an iridescence to it. His shoulders are broad and his arms are muscular. His gray hair is dotted with newly grown black hair. At age 95, his skin began to peel. Years later, the skin on his face, hands, and body was gone, and a new skin appeared. According to Mr. Lu, now his skin changes every three years.

    Mr. Lu Zijian, named by the United Nations "the healthy old man," gets up at 7 a.m. every day, practices gong fu in the morning, meditates, paints, reads, and visits friends in the afternoon. He is as alive, alert, and as amusing as any young man.

    He is a vegetarian, staying away from meat and fish. His favorite food is tomatoes. He meditates for an hour and a half starting at 2 p.m., goes to bed at 11 p.m., and lives at his grandson's home where he eats anything they cook. He told others a secret: eat raw tomatoes every day. They are a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Tomatoes. Raw tomatoes. Of course!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr5vQm_i09I

    good going Gene I thought hopgar big fists make you thick with chi....dude is big as hell!!!.

    Shi Guo Lin is big as heck to, is he a for real vegetarian or does he eat meat like some of the fighting monks do?...curious how some veggie's get thick...chi?!?

    with the swords in his hands he look like a ghettoe santa claus lol


    CHOLESTEROL-CONSCIOUS medics say that eggs are bad for your heart.

    But they haven't reckoned with 109-year old Lu Zijian of China. He attributes his advanced age to, among other things, eating four eggs for breakfast every day.

    And never sleeping on his left side. It's bad for the heart, he says.

    http://www.nationaudio.com/News/East...LastWord4.html
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    When I was in Beijing about 4 or 5 years ago, I watched a 20 part series on CCTV 9, Documentary, titled Martial Arts Today. It was really good. We tried to find the vcds and even called CCTV 9 but I don't think they ever put the documentary out.

    The profound Chinese martial arts, kung fu as Westerners commonly call them, have a long history. In ancient times, armies had them to overtake lands, “Robin Hoods” used them to get rid of villains, outlaws took it as means to do evil. Kung fu has been an indispensable part in traditional Chinese culture. One generation after another, outstanding kung fu masters practiced it, leaving so many much-talked-about sagas. Kung fu in history was not a far-fetched, just a skill to conquer enemies. However, due to the honor given, literary descriptions of heroic deeds, and imagination in admiration by later generations, kung fu has been haloed, particularly so in numerous thrilling stories.

    Before this unfathomable kung fu treasure archive, both today and in history, we have chosen stories of present-day people. All of them have a deep love of kung fu, all of them have shown an instinct pursuit. No halo is seen on their heads, neither a material seeking. Among them, some are beginners, just children, some have practiced all through their lives, some sportsmen by profession, and some just ordinary people like any others. We are going to tell their stories.

    Each character in this TV series lives today. All of them have a deep love of kung fu. Among them, some are beginners, just children, some have practiced kung fu all through their lives, some sportsmen by profession, and some are just ordinary people like any others. We are going to tell their stories.

    Chen Xiaoxing is a farmer. He has practiced taijiquan boxing style since very young. As a conservative person, he has seldom left his village.

    Each year, in Wenxian County, on the fifth in the first month by lunar calendar, there is a county-wide taijiquan competition. For this occasion, each year Chen, and his two nieces, lead village children in preparation.

    For several hundred years, population of taijiquan has kept increasing. A taijiquan culture has been born out of this vigorous and gentle, motivated and still style. By a rough estimation, global players of this form are at least 80 million.

    Little Fei is an eight-year old boy. His grandpa brought him all the way here, Yuncheng, Shandong Province, for him to learn kung fu. The boy has loved it since he was a toddler, and his family has been quite supportive, hoping he will develop into a well-educated kung fu master. They have rented a room by the county stadium, at 10 yuan per month. The grandpa takes care of him. The boy is studying school courses and kung fu skills at a martial school.

    The Spring Festival was drawing near. This time, the two planned to go back home in the northeast for the festival. So we left, made sure we would meet the next spring. However, next time we went there, three years later, the two were nowhere to be seen. Neither other folks, just a desolate look. Did they ever come back?

    Shi Dejian is a monk in the Shaolin Temple. He lives in the Sanhuang Village, South Mount. Trees, birds and wild plants keep him company. A solitude life, but he has lived like this for over a dozen years.

    A snowfall came last night. Dejian loves snow. He came from north China and white snow takes a considerable part in his childhood memories. White and soft snow here makes him homesick. He has been away for five years. Two years before, he learnt his dad was ill, and almost died. His dad is still in sickbed. For long he has failed to hear from his home. He is worried. He wants to return for the coming Spring Festival.

    The Shaolin Temple is a call in his life. But the missing of his home in the northeast is common. With a mixed feeling, both a little excited and worried, he boarded the home-bound train.

    Aged just 11, Dandan has practiced Kung fu for seven years. She has followed competition requirements laid by the State Physical Culture and Sports Commission for a free style. She has been to many provincial and national competitions and returned with championship. She came to Wudang Mount for an international competition a month later. But this time, she failed.

    Her parents have a business in Baotou, selling building materials. For this Wudang competition, they gave up a business season to bring their daughter here. When the little girl grows up, she will probably understand what her parents have sacrificed for her success.

    Life in Chengdu is easy and slow. Everywhere, people of all ages are playing mah-jong. Master Long dislikes this game. His time is spent on sword making and kung fu practice.

    When Long was young, he was a master fitter. Sword making began after he retired from work. So far he has made many, most of them being gifts to friends, some even gone abroad. All the designing, processing and sheath decoration were done by himself, and all by hand.

    He was making another one. He needed a furnace, which he failed to get anywhere. In the end, he heard, from a young friend, of a blacksmith not far from the city. He planned to go there for a stay to make a nice one.

    His kung fu is self-taught. All the moves are made by himself and at his will. His purpose is simple, keeping fit and filling up his free time.

    To be on the safe side, Long made two swords this time. Usually, after much hammering and smoothing, he would find something undesirable on hardness or pliability. If bended, it might not go back to a straight line, or the body may have a defect. Such a sword would be dumped, and his labor and time lost. He called such a sword a waste, and in his home, he had so many wastes.

    Guo is only 14 this year. Two years ago he began practice wrestling and once won a provincial champion. Before long, he will go to Tianjin for an intensive training before a national ethnic sports meet.

    Wrestling has several thousand years history in China. After wrestling was taken off from the list of the National Games, wrestling as a competition item has come to a standstill. Contrary to this, the wrestling competition on the annual Mayer’s Cup in Paris has become a more and more exciting event. Wrestling in Chinese style won’t stop simply because missing in the National Games list.

    The lion dance is popular among folks in China, on each traditional holiday or on ceremonies. The dance has a long history. The earliest documentation happened in Han Dynasty. Old Pang is a lion dancer.
    "Its better to build bridges rather than dig holes but occasionally you have to dig a few holes to build the foundation of a strong bridge."

    "Traditional Northern Chinese Martial Arts are all Sons of the Same Mother," Liu Yun Qiao

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    Martial Arts Today Documentary

    Martial Arts Today Documentary (continued)

    He began to practice kung fu at the age of 20. He has practiced many styles, Baimei, Liuhe, and Xingyi. For stronger arms and a waist, he leant lion dance 20 years ago.

    The 70-years old Wu is of Hui, a retired professor from Sports Department of Inner Mongolian Medical College. His father was name Wu Tong. The father taught him this Yinba style, his masterly skill, when the son was very young.

    Wu Bingxiao wished he could systematically pass this Yinba style lancing onto his students, the skill not to get lost. This has been his earnest hope. Once he said, if just one student could master this style, he would be satisfied.

    Mountains in West China have nurtured simple and honest farmers one generation after another. Old Man Gao is one of them. Every week, the 66-year old Gao goes to the county Waste Recycling Station for a look, a place six or seven kilometers away from his mountain village. He is an ordinary man, the only thing special about him, and he feels so proud of, is his kung fu skills, cudgeling in Qiaozi style.

    His village is poor, having little water supply and no entertainment. Everyone in the village practices this cudgeling style.

    The twenty-three year old Hengli came from New York city. Before he came, he was a college student majored in stage art. He practiced Chinese kung fu in his spare time. Quite by chance, he met a Chinese boxing teacher in a subway. Since the chance meeting, he has forged an indissoluble bond with kung fu.

    Three years ago, by the introduction of that boxing teacher, Hengli came to Beijing Sport University to study kung fu. He has never missed each show or competition in the college.

    He has been to many countries, and made many friends of different nationalities and colors. All of them are young, all of them share a common interest, Chinese kung fu. With this, those young people from different parts of the world have become friends.

    Ma Xianda was from a family with kung fu background for generations. His father is Ma Fengtu, a well-known kung fu player. Ma Xianda once served as the deputy chief of the State Martial Arts Management.

    The seventy-year old Ma Xianda has retired. He no longer has to rush around for business. He spends his time on kung fu studies.

    His younger brother, 66-year-old Ma Lingda, has retired from a Gansu governmental sports department. He worked many years there, and taught many students. This ground on the Baita Mount by the Yellow River is a place for the retired man and his students to practice kung fu.

    Ma Mingda is number four in the family. A history professor in Jinan University and a well-known kung fu player in one. In past years, he has published many research articles on kung fu, from history and factual points of views, some affirmative, some negative.

    In his college, much more students practice tae kwon do, karate, and free-style combating than Chinese kung fu. Many students believe Chinese kung fu is just for a show. They won’t learn it even for free. They believe Chinese kung fu has no real combating significance. This has made Ma sad.

    Chen Xiaohui is a boy from the countryside in Dujiangyan. Kung fu is enlisted in his school curriculum. He has been a good student. Not long before, he was taken as a student for Qingcheng Mount school.

    After several months, he made an impressing progress. His teacher wanted to make him a key student.

    There is going to be a competition on the mount. Little Hui is hoping to do well. This is the first time he attends one.

    Since the opening and reform policies implemented in China, every trade has done utmost to develop economy. Kung fu has no longer been the means to conquer enemies. In Cangzhou, however, kung fu practicing is still popular. Wherever you go, the one you meet may be a good player. There, we picked two less-known players and took down what they did in a day. The two didn’t know each other, their homes far apart, the 60-odd Sun in Qingxian County, and 98-year old Zhu in Cangxian County.

    People like them are many in Cangzhou, viewed not as the top players. They have practiced it through out their lives, easy to be approached, never in the hope to gain a quick success or anything. They never hoped to, one day, establish their own school. This peaceful state of mind has left them in excellent health.


    This really impressed me since I am a baji practitioner and what they played I was very familiar with

    In this school, there is a class for free-style combating. We documented stories of three girls in three competitions. The first match was within the school, winners would go up for the second competition in the city. Winners out of the second competition would go for the nation-wide held in Shanghai.

    Zhang is 70 years old. This documentary, entitled Boxers, was made 20 years ago by Beijing Newsreels and Documentary Film Studio, for a record of Chinese kung fu arts. It was then the beginning of opening and reform, kung fu was still popular among folks. Gaining health through it was their number one objective.

    Zhang no longer teaches students as frequently as he used to. But every Sunday afternoon, he and his students get together to practice Shaobei style.

    Tutored by Zhang, students often practice it in a real scene. By this, they have accumulated much experience. They hope to create a stage for traditional Chinese martial art.

    These are just parts from the 20-part TV series. Chinese kung fu has experienced so much through out history. Chinese people invented gunpowder, with it, foreigners made firearms. Before firearms, kung fu was no longer significant in battlefields. However, kung fu is still for self-defense. Today, it is more for entertainment and keeping fit. Chinese kung fu is traditional, current but more of future as well.



    http://www.cctv.com/lm/176/71/88860.html
    "Its better to build bridges rather than dig holes but occasionally you have to dig a few holes to build the foundation of a strong bridge."

    "Traditional Northern Chinese Martial Arts are all Sons of the Same Mother," Liu Yun Qiao

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    fat vegetarians

    diego - Shi Guolin is a devout vegetarian. It's easy to get big being vegetarian. Only illiterate carnivores think otherwise. Just look at the fat content in tofu. If that doesn't convince you, just look at my ever-widening qi belly.

    RAF - Nice post. I was delighted to find we've covered a few of those masters too.
    Grandmaster Chen Xiaoxing: The Simple Wisdom of a Village Grandmaster
    by Stephan Berwick (2005 September/October)

    Shaolin Trinity: Shaolin Monk Shi Dejian Discusses the Three Treasures

    by Gene Ching (2005 May/June)

    The Muslim Master of the Old Empire: An interview with Grandmaster Ma Xianda
    by Gigi Oh, with Gene Ching (2002 November/December)
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    I have almost the Whole China Survey series, I got them from Roger Hagood when he first started the magazine.

    I am willing to make DVD copies of the tapes for people, if they pay me a fair fee ($5 to $10 each depending on how many they want).

    I have ALL the survey tapes that feature the old masters, there are many worthwhile sets on the tapes, now gone forever since most of these masters are deceased.
    The only tapes I don't have are all the modern wushu ones, I was not interested in them. I think I have one or two though.

    I have two huge cartons full of the Survey tapes.

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    Gene:

    I was hoping you might have some connections to CCTV and get the right to distribute it here in the US. I think the documentary was done by a German group however it was in English.

    It was a very interesting slice of the art!
    "Its better to build bridges rather than dig holes but occasionally you have to dig a few holes to build the foundation of a strong bridge."

    "Traditional Northern Chinese Martial Arts are all Sons of the Same Mother," Liu Yun Qiao

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    If you've been following the mag.
    Yeah, if only it would arrive....

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    Isn't the stuff Rodger Hadgood put out only a small fraction of the whole survey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAF View Post
    When I was in Beijing about 4 or 5 years ago, I watched a 20 part series on CCTV 9, Documentary, titled Martial Arts Today. It was really good. We tried to find the vcds and even called CCTV 9 but I don't think they ever put the documentary out.
    Is it this?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Kung-Fu-TV-Shows...QQcmdZViewItem

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    cows and pigs eat lots of vegetables so therefor i am a vegetarian by eating them
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    Genes too busy rocking the gang and scarfing down bags of cheetos while beating it to nacho ninjettes and laughing at the ridiculous posts on the kfforum. In a horse stance of course.

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    SC: You have the whole survey on videotape? Have you converted those to DVD yet? Those videos must be over a decade old, yes? That'll have significant resolution decay if you haven't rewound them.

    RAF: We do have connections to CCTV but the price they ask for distribution rights to America is generally astronomical. The original quotes for Sandawang rights were several hundred dollars per minute. There's no way we could recoup that. Besides, most people that are interested in these series can find the originals on VCD at a fraction of the price we'd have to offer it on DVD, so it's too narrow a market unfortunately.

    MK: You haven't got your last issue? The last issue was sent out nearly two months ago. Something has surely gone awry. IM me with the details. We'll get this sorted out.

    RD: Hagood's 'survey' was a mixed bag. Some of the footage was taped off TV broadcasts, some genuinely from the research project, some was stuff he probably filmed himself. Go back to post 11 for the details. Since a lot of the footage was lost, at least according to Wu Xinliang, it's very hard to know how extensive the survey was at its peak. Bits and pieces are resurfacing here and there, like in this new instructional series based on survey footage that Wu has produced, and in personal libraries like Sal's. I'm told Wu has an extensive personal library too, not just the survey but other research. Hagood's library was quite extensive as well. He was a pioneer with the survey and the origin of our magazine.
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