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  1. #31
    Thanks for the tip, Sal.

    Wikipedia had the following characters for the abbot's name: 释永信

    Edit: but I've only found a hit on the shaolin search under wushu category for: 永信


    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    Well, you need to read Chinese but there is some English there.

    I got all of mine from here:
    http://www.frelax.com/en/

    Go to Categories, and then scroll down to the characters for Wushu.
    Or paste in: 少林
    where it says title and then keep looking.

    If someone here can give you the Chinese character for the Abbot's name, then you can paste that into the author area and it will find it much faster!

    Sorry I couldn't be of better service.
    Last edited by rett; 07-12-2011 at 06:23 AM.

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    Okay, if I've done it right, here is a list of the 32 books authored by the Shi Yongxin available at Sal's link. I've marked the large and small red fist (as best I can tell)

    Any further tips on contents and what could be worth ordering would be a great help.

    LD00340794 老刀-少林寺拳譜(漢英対照)  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版
    MGGS328383 民国国術期刊文献集成(全31册)  [釈永信 主編] 294000円 中国書店
    SLSQ353443 少林寺拳譜-三路梅花刀  [釈永信] 1730円 河南人民出版
    SLSQ354021 少林寺拳譜-二路梅花刀  [釈永信] 1730円 河南人民出版
    SLWC358214 少林問禅-机鋒辨禅  [釈永信 主編] 1920円 国際文化
    WXZD359308 我心中的少林  [釈永信] 3200円 上海錦綉文章
    ZGFJ378789 中国仏教医葯全書(全101册、含目録索引1册)  [釈永信 主編] 1200000円 中国書店
    ZSLS354498 在少林寺听講座(精編本)  [釈永信] 2530円 上海交通大学
    ZSLS354497 在少林寺听名家講座(上中下)  [釈永信] 11340円 上海交通大学
    SLSH340797 少林焼火棍-少林寺拳譜(漢英対照)  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版
    SLWC313728 少林問禅-机鋒辨禅  [釈永信 主編] 2110円 金城
    SSQ0340796 十三槍-少林寺拳譜(漢英対照)  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版
    WXZD355382 我心中的少林  [釈永信 著] 2530円 上海錦綉文章
    XHQ0205464 小洪拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1290円 河南人民出版 [xiao hong quan]
    YLMH340798 一路梅花刀.英漢対照-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版
    CLJ0193422 禅露集(三)  [釈永信 著] 1100円 宗教文化
    CLJ0193423 禅露集(四)  [釈永信 著] 1230円 宗教文化
    WXWF240821 我心我仏:釈永信方丈禅語録  [釈永信 著] 1290円 華齢
    BQ00261673 炮拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版
    CHXY255154 長護心意門拳(中英文対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2460円 河南人民出版
    DHQ0261591 大洪拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版 [da hong quan]
    DHQ0238822 大洪拳(俄文)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 編] 3120円 河南人民出版 [da hong quan]
    ELRQ261619 二路柔拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版
    MHQ0261624 梅花拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2290円 河南人民出版
    SLGF216433 少林功夫  [釈永信] 2340円 華齢
    SLLH258253 三路羅漢拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2400円 河南人民出版
    SLSL175146 少林寺旅遊手册  [釈永信 編著] 1290円 当代中国
    SLSQ261551 大通臂拳(中英文対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版
    XHQ0238817 小洪拳(俄文)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 編] 1730円 河南人民出版 [xiao hong quan]
    YLRQ261494 一路柔拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2290円 河南人民出版
    YLTB261495 一路通臂拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2290円 河南人民出版
    DHQ0205665 大洪拳(中英文)  [釈永信 主編] 1290円 河南人民出版 [da hong quan]
    Last edited by rett; 07-12-2011 at 06:42 AM.

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    Some are repeated.

    大/小拳:not red, literally means flood, also a Surname.

    Appears to be in Japanese so some listings use different character variants.

    LD00340794 老刀-少林寺拳譜(漢英対照)  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版 Lao dao
    MGGS328383 民国国術期刊文献集成(全31册)  [釈永信 主編] 294000円 中国書店 people's national martial arts periodical compendium???
    SLSQ353443 少林寺拳譜-三路梅花刀  [釈永信] 1730円 河南人民出版 third road of mei hua dao
    SLSQ354021 少林寺拳譜-二路梅花刀  [釈永信] 1730円 河南人民出版 second road of mei hua dao
    SLWC358214 少林問禅-机鋒辨禅  [釈永信 主編] 1920円 国際文化 Chan Questions???
    WXZD359308 我心中的少林  [釈永信] 3200円 上海錦綉文章 Shaolin in my heart (Yong Xin's autobiography)
    ZGFJ378789 中国仏教医葯全書(全101册、含目録索引1册)  [釈永信 主編] 1200000円 中国書店 Chinese Buddhist medicine compedium
    ZSLS354498 在少林寺听講座(精編本)  [釈永信] 2530円 上海交通大学 lecture series
    ZSLS354497 在少林寺听名家講座(上中下)  [釈永信] 11340円 上海交通大学 "
    SLSH340797 少林焼火棍-少林寺拳譜(漢英対照)  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版 Shaolin Shao Huo Gun
    SLWC313728 少林問禅-机鋒辨禅  [釈永信 主編] 2110円 金城
    SSQ0340796 十三槍-少林寺拳譜(漢英対照)  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版 Thirteen Types Spear
    XHQ0205464 小洪拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1290円 河南人民出版 [xiao hong quan]
    YLMH340798 一路梅花刀.英漢対照-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1730円 河南人民出版 first road of mei hua dao
    CLJ0193422 禅露集(三)  [釈永信 著] 1100円 宗教文化 Chan Dew 3(poetry)
    CLJ0193423 禅露集(四)  [釈永信 著] 1230円 宗教文化 Chan Dew 4(poetry)
    WXWF240821 我心我仏:釈永信方丈禅語録  [釈永信 著] 1290円 華齢 Chan Sayings??
    BQ00261673 炮拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版 Pao Quan
    CHXY255154 長護心意門拳(中英文対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2460円 河南人民出版 Chang Hu Xin Yi Men
    DHQ0261591 大洪拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版 [da hong quan]
    DHQ0238822 大洪拳(俄文)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 編] 3120円 河南人民出版 [da hong quan]
    ELRQ261619 二路柔拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版 second road of rou quan
    MHQ0261624 梅花拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2290円 河南人民出版 meihua quan
    SLGF216433 少林功夫  [釈永信] 2340円 華齢 Shaolin Gong Fu
    SLLH258253 三路羅漢拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2400円 河南人民出版 Third Road of Luohan Quan
    SLSL175146 少林寺旅遊手册  [釈永信 編著] 1290円 当代中国 Shaolin Tour Guide Book
    SLSQ261551 大通臂拳(中英文対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 1860円 河南人民出版 Large frame Tong Bi
    XHQ0238817 小洪拳(俄文)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 編] 1730円 河南人民出版 [xiao hong quan]
    YLRQ261494 一路柔拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2290円 河南人民出版 First road of rou quan
    YLTB261495 一路通臂拳(英漢対照)-少林寺拳譜  [釈永信 主編] 2290円 河南人民出版 first road of tong bi
    DHQ0205665 大洪拳(中英文)  [釈永信 主編] 1290円 河南人民出版 [da hong quan]
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott R. Brown View Post
    This is not a veiled request for compliments

    The short story is I did 325# for one set of 1 rep.

    1) Does this sound gifted, or just lucky?

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    Thanks for the translations

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    SLWC358214 少林問禅-机鋒辨禅  [釈永信 主編] 1920円 国際文化 Chan Questions???
    This one is actually "Chan Debate" I think.

    I got the fist and weapons forms but there are other members here who could give you much more complete and accurate translations of the other listings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rett View Post
    Thanks for the tip, Sal.

    Wikipedia had the following characters for the abbot's name: 释永信

    Edit: but I've only found a hit on the shaolin search under wushu category for: 永信
    Their search engine isn't working right.
    My Martial Arts articles archive:

    http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/index.htm

    Shaolin Qigong / Neigong Healing & Self Defense Programs and Seminars:

    http://www.jindaolife.com
    http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/index.html

    Qigong Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/QigongProgram.htm
    Chinese Martial Art Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchoo...ArtProgram.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by sha0lin1 View Post
    I have to agree, I have picked up a few of these books during my visits to the Temple. They are nicely done. But the versions that are in the books may have a few different movements due to the many variations between the forms.
    well, the thing about these versions are that the Abbot gathered as many as of the old timers from the countryside together and they detail by detail made corrections to the sets so that they would be as close to the original ways of doing the sets as possible. It can be done, and I really like the way they are done in these books, the postural movements make much more sense.
    My Martial Arts articles archive:

    http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/index.htm

    Shaolin Qigong / Neigong Healing & Self Defense Programs and Seminars:

    http://www.jindaolife.com
    http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/index.html

    Qigong Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/QigongProgram.htm
    Chinese Martial Art Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchoo...ArtProgram.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    well, the thing about these versions are that the Abbot gathered as many as of the old timers from the countryside together and they detail by detail made corrections to the sets so that they would be as close to the original ways of doing the sets as possible. It can be done, and I really like the way they are done in these books, the postural movements make much more sense.
    Sounds interesting. Hope this gives a nice picture of the unwushuified forms. I've ordered the xiao hong quan book to take a look. Really appreciate the tip.

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    Thanks for the heads up guys. These books sound like they're gonna be awesome.

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    Sal,
    Do they have

    1. Lao Hong Quan
    2. 32 Posture Tai Tzu Chang Chuan
    3. At least 3 of the 6 roads of Da Hong Quan,
    4. Xiao Hong Quan?


    Also, do they have accurate and authentic applications for each move?
    Those that are the most sucessful are also the biggest failures. The difference between them and the rest of the failures is they keep getting up over and over again, until they finally succeed.


    For the Women:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rett View Post
    Thanks for the tip, Sal.

    Wikipedia had the following characters for the abbot's name: 释永信

    Edit: but I've only found a hit on the shaolin search under wushu category for: 永信
    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    Their search engine isn't working right.


    Hey rett,

    it seems this is an issue of Japanese Characters- the Shi character in Chinese being "释" while the character "釈" is not Chinese- I cannot read nor write Japanese Characters- but often the Chinese were simplified differently into Japanese Kanji from what I have read.

    It seems there are several examples of this on the Frelax website that I have found in my search for ShaoLin.

    Hope this helps

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    Yes, it definitely helps, thanks!

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    In the second volume, is "The snapkicking form with ten sections" a Shaolin version of Tan Tui? I would be surprised if it were, considering that it is from Chinese Muslim kung fu styles.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fa Xing View Post
    In the second volume, is "The snapkicking form with ten sections" a Shaolin version of Tan Tui? I would be surprised if it were, considering that it is from Chinese Muslim kung fu styles.

    Thoughts?
    Yeah, there are several Shaolin Tantui sets, usually 24 lines. Though in SongShan they are not that commonly practiced, just a few clans.

    Not all Tantui is Muslim, there are multiple versions, some may be completely unrelated. The story I heard is that it was originally from LongTan Temple (Temple of the dragon pool) and so is called TanTui (Pool/pond legs). It seems more likely it is the name of a family. Some people change the Tan to 'flick'. Its old enough that there are countless versions in clans across China without a very clear origin.

    Shaolin temple is in a constant state of flux with regards to monks so there is not a very consistent syllabus. Rather anything ShaolinPai traditionally practiced in the Song Mountain area, in the many villages and townships and temples, is 'Shaolin'. Much of this Shaolin is imported from other styles over centuries but retains a common SongShan flavour and technique base.
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    Awesome, thank you!

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