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[Meat Shake]

Not saying this about you at all Oso, everyone gets nailed in sparring no matter what rank or experiance, anyone that says different is full of sh!t.

I never get hit because when I took shaolin-do I learned to focus my chi to one point on my body and make a small explosion that stopped the blow, then run away on my massive pectorals.

[Oso]

ok, so it's like 3 weeks later and this **** foot still hurts.

here are some pics of it the night of the damage.

it's my right foot that got hurt

i'm not sure if a bone got cracked or just some serious soft tissue tearing.

had to move the weekend after and changed jobs and had a seminar to go to so I have of course not taken any time off of it...i know, stupid ....

[bakxierboxer]

ok, so it's like 3 weeks later and this **** foot still hurts.

here are some pics of it the night of the damage.

it's my right foot that got hurt

i'm not sure if a bone got cracked or just some serious soft tissue tearing.

had to move the weekend after and changed jobs and had a seminar to go to so I have of course not taken any time off of it...i know, stupid ....

It looks pretty "deep" and "set up".
What kind of Jow are you using?
Do you have access to Dit Dah Wan?
If so, the "drill" now is to take a few of the Wan use the Jow and RE-injure it.
You should be getting "color" up to the surface as the injury dissolves/dissipates.
Continue the Wan and deep-massage the Jow until healed.

This routine can actually get rid of bone-spurs in knee joints....

[Oso]

well, there is probably two injuries to see...about 6 months ago I went to side kick and the guy brought his shin up and blocked it...since then I've had a knot on the side of my pinkie metatarsal...I can't really see it in the pics but you can feel it on the side of my foot.

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I jowed the above but didn't rest it.

I have a bruise jow purchased from Shifu Mike Biggie of Akron
I've several decantings and drew off some from the main jug to use on this that has been fermenting for 23 months.

after the recent incident:

[/edit]

I jowed it and then at the insistance of my girl, soaked it in some ice water (the pics are right after about 10 minutes of cold water) I didn't really want to do that but she made me

I jowed it 2-3 times a day till the color came and went over about 5 days.

I'm sure I should have taken at least 3-5 days off of it but couldn't.

[bakxierboxer]

well, there is probably two injuries to see...about 6 months ago I went to side kick and the guy brought his shin up and blocked it...since then I've had a knot on the side of my pinkie metatarsal...I can't really see it in the pics but you can feel it on the side of my foot.

I jowed the above but didn't rest it.

I have a bruise jow purchased from Shifu Mike Biggie of Akron
I've several decantings and drew off some from the main jug to use on this that has been fermenting for 23 months.

after the recent incident:

I jowed it and then at the insistance of my girl, soaked it in some ice water (the pics are right after about 10 minutes of cold water) I didn't really want to do that but she made me

I jowed it 2-3 times a day till the color came and went over about 5 days.

I'm sure I should have taken at least 3-5 days off of it but couldn't.

If that swelling is "soft-ish" the bruise jow will work ok eventually.
If it's "harder", check with Mike or Dale Dugas to see if they have any "bone jow".

Your GF was right at the time to stop additional swelling,although the Jow alone would have done "about as well".
Now you can start warming the jow before putting it on and *major* injuries can be treated (if you have enough jow & proper pans) by WARMING the jow and immersing the injured limb in it. Re immersion, good jow, when heated, BURNS!
(sensation)(not-so-strangely only at the injury site).
DON'T heat it over about 110 or whatever you can stand with relative ease.

The Dit Dah Wan are pills/capsules so that you're treating the injury from inside and outside simultaneously.

If no one has individual pills/caps, you can get the 5-Photo gigonda-pill in the metal tin, chop it up and dissolve it in your favorite booze.
Take a couple teaspoons of the solution maybe 20-30 minutes before each treatment with Jow.
If you can get the pills/caps, take them 45 minutes or so before treatment with Jow.

[Chosen-frozen]

This is prob going to get Becca knocking at my door with a shotgun and a can or gasoline but some of the worst cases of control that I have ever come across besides the macho action figure people were women.

I don't know if its been my bad luck but some of the worst injuries I have ever seen came from the much hotter and often times brighter sex pushing past there own limits to prove something or just being way to spastic.

This includes someone's gums getting raked...ouch...with long nails in a very simple drill....someone getting his ankle split open with a heavy stick in a two man drill...a guy getting a finger broken during a simple joint lock transition drill....list could go on.

I feel like an a$$ now.

Don`t! I`ve had the same kinds of experiences in lots of classes. It reached the point where I could hardly get assistants to come to a womens`self defnse class we had at the university. I don`t have any proof, but my own theory is that they don`t have alot of confidence in themselves ("Oh little old me? I could never hurt someone so much bigger, I`m just not strong enough") or else they lack familiarity with the technique. So they crank on it "just to see if it REALLY works".

Most guys in martial arts classes have done some other kinds of sports aswell and come in knowing thier own strength. So they have some confidence in thier ability if they canjust learn it correctly. They`ll take your word for it when you say "Be careful this hurts like a muther" or mention that the risk for injury is high.

[Oso]

If that swelling is "soft-ish" the bruise jow will work ok eventually.
If it's "harder", check with Mike or Dale Dugas to see if they have any "bone jow".

It was softish and has stayed that way. The older injury got hard almost immediately though I massaged it with the jow.

Your GF was right at the time to stop additional swelling,although the Jow alone would have done "about as well".

yea, I've reduced swelling with massage and jow before. mostly, I'm just a wuss when it comes to ice cold water.

Now you can start warming the jow before putting it on and *major* injuries can be treated (if you have enough jow & proper pans) by WARMING the jow and immersing the injured limb in it. Re immersion, good jow, when heated, BURNS!
(sensation)(not-so-strangely only at the injury site).
DON'T heat it over about 110 or whatever you can stand with relative ease.

The Dit Dah Wan are pills/capsules so that you're treating the injury from inside and outside simultaneously.

If no one has individual pills/caps, you can get the 5-Photo gigonda-pill in the metal tin, chop it up and dissolve it in your favorite booze.
Take a couple teaspoons of the solution maybe 20-30 minutes before each treatment with Jow.
If you can get the pills/caps, take them 45 minutes or so before treatment with Jow.

thanks. i think the psuedo asian grocery next door has those pills. don't they have arnica in them?

[xcakid]

Looks like that's not gonna buff right out.

Have you gone to the Dr.?

[Oso]

Doctor??? We don't need no steenkin doctor!!!!

[David Jamieson]

keep in mind, most of the bones in your body are tiny, and they are within your hands and feet. Tissue damage in those areas takes time and patience to heal and quite often will never return to exactly how it was especially if there is any fracturing.

Because when fractures occur, the result is calcification to the healing area and that occurs in the shape of the wound unless it is thoroughly set, in which case the bone will take the shape of the set wound and still have some deformation in the bone.

so, when it's tiny ones in your feet, it takes a while.

also, if you continue to put hard contact on the foot and spend a lot of time on yoru feet, it exacerbates the problem and draws out the healing timeline further even with medicines.

you get an x-ray?

[Oso]

yea, I know. I also just remembered today that it's the same leg I broke 9 years ago...a double spiral fracture of the fibula that went all the way in to the ankle joint...so It's been messed up for a while.

ftr, I would have gone to the doctor if I had insurance. I just changed jobs and insurance won't start for another month.

[bakxierboxer]

thanks. i think the psuedo asian grocery next door has those pills. don't they have arnica in them?

I actually don't know.
It's "possible", but I've used it with good results as has another long-time user of this Forum.
Another helpful Chinese nostrum is/was "Emei Bone-Strengthening Patches", but I haven't even seen them around for something like ten years now.
Part of the "problem" is that the "deeper" injuries are what I call "bone bruises" and the injury/swelling is within/under the periosteum which is less-permeable than "normal flesh".