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    I did not know mma was ever for the purpose of appeasing anyone but mma fighters.
    If the floppy underwear is going to uniform Everlast trunks, something else will have to be started so mma can become an Olympic sport.
    (Bah. It will be ruined for most, but promoters and a handful of fighters...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    I forgot about this thread. I was posting Jon 'Bones' Jones recent drug fail on Busted-MMA-fighters-and-fights when it really should have been here.
    Steroids is, like I have said many times along with HGH, used through out the sports fighting world, pro, amateur and recreational alike.
    Nothing new here and that Silva was one them explains how quickly he recovered from his injury to get back to being his old self.
    As for marijuana, people laugh at this because they don't understand the value of marijuana in the fight game.
    Think about it.
    While the obvious side effects that are detrimental are clear, some forget that for grapplers, the relaxed and mellow state where things appear to slow down, is very beneficial for them.
    Not to mention the pain aspect. Marijuana is know for decrease the perception of pain.
    I don't think that MJ can be viewed as a PED per say, no more than cocaine or PCP for example BUT put it this way:
    If it doesn't have a benefit, why do it?
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    Silva replies

    Anderson Silva: "I have not taken any performance enhancing drugs"
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    Anderson Silva broke his silence in a statement released on Wednesday

    Anderson Silva has broken his silence in a prepared statement released to the media on Wednesday, just a day after the Nevada State Athletic Commission released test results that showed the former UFC middleweight champion tested positive for two different performance enhancing drugs.
    Silva had never tested positive for any drugs during any phase of his career before now, but the test results showed the 39-year old Brazilian was positive for both Drostanolone and Androstane, two different kinds of steroids.
    Silva released a statement through his manager Ed Soares denying any wrongdoing.
    "I've been competing in this sport for a very long time. This is my nineteenth fight in the UFC. I have been thoroughly tested many times and have never had a positive drug test," Silva said.
    "I have not taken any performance enhancing drugs. My stance on drugs is, and will always be, the same. I'm an advocate for a clean sport."
    The testing was done by the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory, a World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) accredited lab.
    Silva says that he will continue to fight the charges made against him, but will make no further public statement following the one released on Wednesday.
    "I'm consulting with my advisors right now to explore all of my options and intend to fight this allegation and clear my name," Silva said. "I will not make any further comments until my team advises me to do so."
    Nevada State Athletic Commission chairman Francisco Aguilar spoke to FOX Sports on Wednesday confirming that the governing body will address Silva's test in their next meeting on Feb. 17 where a temporary suspension will likely be handed down. From there, Silva has the right to request a second test on the 'B' sample collected during the initial collection on Jan. 9.
    Silva will be responsible to pay for the additional testing if it's requested.
    Following the initial meeting in February, the commission will then work to schedule a time for the full disciplinary hearing where Silva will be allowed to present his case. The hearing will likely be held in March although Aguilar stated that the commission will work with Silva and his team to make sure the timing is convenient for everybody involved.
    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    As for marijuana, people laugh at this because they don't understand the value of marijuana in the fight game.
    Think about it.
    While the obvious side effects that are detrimental are clear, some forget that for grapplers, the relaxed and mellow state where things appear to slow down, is very beneficial for them.
    Not to mention the pain aspect. Marijuana is know for decrease the perception of pain.
    I don't think that MJ can be viewed as a PED per say, no more than cocaine or PCP for example BUT put it this way:
    If it doesn't have a benefit, why do it?
    Fighters have short memories, just like potheads. Remember Bruce Lee? How about Michael Phelps? Both potheads.
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    I attribute all my recent gains to my new pre-workout; Sour Diesel.

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    Hector Lombard

    Yet another UFC fail.

    Hector Lombard fails drug test
    Updated: February 10, 2015, 3:36 PM ET
    By Brett Okamoto | ESPN.com

    UFC welterweight Hector Lombard has tested positive for an anabolic steroid in a test he submitted after defeating Josh Burkman at UFC 182 on Jan. 3 in Las Vegas.

    Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Bob Bennett confirmed the results to ESPN.com on Tuesday. MMA Fighting first reported Lombard's failed test.

    Lombard (35-4-1) tested positive for desoxymethyltestosterone, according to lab reports. The sample was collected Jan. 3 and reported to the NSAC on Jan. 13.

    News of the failed test comes immediately after the UFC announced on Tuesday that a scheduled fight between Lombard and Rory MacDonald at UFC 186 on April 25 had been canceled. The UFC did not provide details on why the bout had been pulled at that time.

    UFC director of communications Dave Sholler acknowledged to ESPN.com that Lombard was removed due to the failed test. The UFC is exploring new options for MacDonald.

    A former Bellator MMA middleweight champion, Lombard signed with UFC in 2012 and dropped to the welterweight division in 2013. He has compiled a 3-0 record since, aligning himself toward a potential title shot in 2015.

    He faces a fine and suspension due to the failed test. His unanimous decision win against Burkman will likely change to a no-contest.

    Burkman (27-11) commented via Twitter shortly after the news broke.


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    Strike TWO

    Anderson Silva fails 2nd drug test
    Updated: February 17, 2015, 5:05 PM ET
    By Brett Okamoto | ESPN.com

    LAS VEGAS -- Former UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva has failed a second drug test administered by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

    NSAC executive director Bob Bennett confirmed to ESPN.com on Tuesday that Silva, 39, failed his postfight urine test after a unanimous decision win against Nick Diaz at UFC 183 on Jan. 31.


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    Anderson Silva has failed a second drug test, this time on Jan. 31, the same day as his victory over Nick Diaz at UFC 183 in Las Vegas.

    Silva tested positive for the steroid drostanolone -- the same banned substance he tested positive for during an out-of-competition test taken on Jan. 9. Silva also tested positive for the anti-anxiety medication Oxazepam and Temazepam, which is used to treat sleep deprivation.

    In total, Silva (34-6) submitted to three NSAC tests. He tested positive for drostanolone and androstane on Jan. 9. He then provided a clean sample on Jan. 19, followed by a second failed test on Jan. 31.

    Silva, who had never tested positive for a banned substance before, initially faced a nine-month suspension for his first offense. Bennett did not know whether the commission would increase that length because of a second failed test.

    "I can't speak for the [NSAC] Chairman nor can I speak for the commissioners," Bennett told ESPN.com. "But something I find particularly concerning is that he tested positive on Jan. 9th and then he tested negative on Jan. 19th. If he took this orally, it only stays in your system 5-to-7 days.

    "So, obviously, he used it sometime around Jan. 9th and then he used it shortly before the night of the fight. Whether the commission finds this egregious -- that he tested positive twice out of three times -- is up to them. I certainly find it concerning and unacceptable. It gives an unfair advantage to the person on that. God forbid, a serious injury were to occur to an opponent when someone is on something."

    Silva, widely considered the greatest fighter of all time, has denied knowingly taking any banned substance.

    "I have not taken any performance-enhancing drugs," Silva said, shortly after the initial failed test. "My stance on drugs is and will always be the same. I'm an advocate for a clean sport."

    The NSAC is scheduled to temporarily suspend Silva during a meeting on Wednesday. A disciplinary hearing, which Silva would be required to attend, will most likely be scheduled in March.

    Diaz (26-10) also failed his fight night drug test for marijuana metabolites. He tested negative for all other banned substances.

    The NSAC will determine whether to change the result of the fight to a no-contest at a later date, most likely during Silva's disciplinary hearing.

    Silva's fight night sample, collected on Jan. 31, arrived at the processing lab in Salt Lake City on Feb. 2, according to lab reports relayed by Bennett. The lab reported the results to the NSAC on Feb. 10.

    Bennett said results were not immediately circulated to the media as a courtesy to the licensed athlete, Silva. According to Bennett, Silva's representatives had inquired on the possibility of testing the "B" sample of his first failed test but have so far not submitted an official request to do so.

    Anyone here ever take drostanolone?

    Is that an indelicate question?
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    I had a client whose doc prescribed them Dro. The official buse was for regrowth assist of ripped quad. The unofficial reasoning was to assist in bone healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Anyone here ever take drostanolone?

    Is that an indelicate question?
    Typically a steroid used to gain strength and muscle mass WITHOUT gaining weight.
    Also used by pro bodybuilders during the "cutting phase" so they can lose weight without losing muscle mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Typically a steroid used to gain strength and muscle mass WITHOUT gaining weight.
    Also used by pro bodybuilders during the "cutting phase" so they can lose weight without losing muscle mass.
    Sounds like halotestin. I had a 90 day cycle about 20 years ago. I never took them. Never used anything.

    I am not against there use. But, one has to weigh the pros and cons of it. Also, I think older guys using it for replacement value is the safest way to use them. Im glad I did not take it when I was 23 or whatever I was. Heard halo is pretty rough on the liver too. Probably would not have gone well with the copious amounts of beer I used to use then.

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    this surprised me because silva looked like he was taking anything, i always thought he was natural.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    this surprised me because silva looked like he was taking anything, i always thought he was natural.
    Its a gross misconception that steroid use = body builder muscles.

    There are some tell-tale signs of course, like rounded shoulders ( the photo-shop look like some call it), overdeveloped traps ( because the shoulder and traps have a very high concentration of androgen receptors they react very well and quickly to steroids) and a "drawn and square face" BUT many times, especially with fighters trying to keep in lower weight categories, they don't do enough heavy weight training to look like they take steroids.
    The reality is that natural athletes can NOT cut weight AND maintain muscle mass.
    You can be shredded or bulky but you can NOT be both unless you are on the juice.
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    Jose Aldo's random drug test tossed

    The curious case of Jose Aldo and the discarded drug test sample
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    Jose Aldo will fight Conor McGregor on July 13

    A random drug test conducted on Conor McGregor's upcoming opponent Jose Aldo in Brazil this week has been thrown out after an admin error.

    We are now four weeks away from the eve of Conor McGregor's title fight with Jose Aldo.

    The hype about the fight will really start to ramp up once UFC 188 is out of the way this weekend and the coverage is going to be wall-to-wall all over the globe, but especially in Ireland and Brazil.

    And now we have our first tiny hint of controversy too.

    Drug testers from the Nevada Athletic Commission (NAC) arrived at Aldo's training camp this week to obtain a sample of urine but the collection by Ben Mosier from the Drug Free Sport lab was all for nothing and the sample has had to be chucked in the bin.

    Mosier did not have the proper visa to conduct the test so he was fined and instructed to leave the country.

    Aldo's manager Andre Pederneiras told MMAFighting: "We did everything they asked. Before this whole mess started, Aldo had already done the test, (his urine) was in the cup. But when the Brazilian commission arrived, they saw that the sample wasn’t collected as it should."

    However the Brazilian MMA governing body, CABMMA, say they will take a sample from Aldo, with Mosier in attendance, and send it to the US for testing.

    There is no suggestion that anything untoward happened here but you would expect the NAC to be a bit sharper than this, especially in a country they should be visiting regularly to test fighters.

    As for McGregor's reaction, well, he's not impressed to say the least...

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    @josealdojunior you little weasel. You and your weasel coach. #AndNew
    UFC drug testers are so sloppy...
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    I don't know . . . it just feels like, in some way, he's ducking Vitor.
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    UFC's retired Kyle Kingsbury



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    Suspended for a year

    Anderson Silva suspended one year after testing positive for banned substances
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    Anderson Silva cannot fight again until Jan. 31, 2016.
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    Former UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva was suspended for one year and fined following a hearing with the Nevada State Athletic Commission on Thursday after testing positive for banned substances surrounding his Jan. 31 fight against Nick Diaz.

    Silva was also fined and the result of his fight against Diaz was overturned to a no contest.

    The two-hour-plus hearing saw Silva and his attorney make their defense while claiming that the fighter took a tainted sexual-enhancement drug, which then caused a positive test result.

    Silva tested positive for Drostanolone and Androstane -- both classified as banned, performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) -- following a test administered on Jan. 9. Silva also tested positive for Drostanolone again in a post-fight test on Jan. 31 as well as two more drugs -- temazepam and oxazepam -- that are used for anti-anxiety and sleeplessness.

    During the hearing, Silva testified and claimed that the tainted supplement was a sexual-enhancement liquid given to him by a friend who purchased the drug in Thailand. Silva stated that the off-market drug similar to Viagara or Cialis was not available for purchase in the United States or Brazil. According to Silva, he knew Marcos Fernandes for approximately one year through training together in Brazil and during a conversation talking about "man stuff," Silva says he received the supplement.

    Silva said he took the sexual-enhancement drug for about three months prior to the fight.

    Silva and his defense team called upon Paul Scott, who previously worked with the UCLA laboratory and also testified in cases involving Lance Armstrong and Floyd Landis. Scott claimed that he performed tests on the fighter's supplements and that's where he found the tainted substance that he believes caused the positive result.

    Unfortunately, Scott didn't bring any documentation with him to the hearing to provide proof of the testing or the results to show the commission.

    "I'm human and I make mistakes and I made a mistake," Silva said during the hearing.

    The commission grilled Silva and his defense about the dates he claims to have taken the drug. Meanwhile, Dr. Daniel Eichner from the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory testified that any use of Drostonalone would only show up in a result if taken with about a week of the testing.

    Silva also claimed during the testimony that prior to his bout at UFC 183 he had never been subject to enhanced drug testing. Previously, Silva said he was only tested on fight nights.

    As the commission began deliberating, Silva was accused of showing no remorse for the positive test or offering an admission of guilt for using banned substances.

    "Given the testimony we heard today it's quite evident there are some major inconsistencies in what I've heard and the testimony I've heard. For that reason, I would actually proceed with going on the higher end for a penalty," Nevada State Athletic Commission chairman Francisco Aguilar said about Silva.

    "I think there's been very similar instances where we've had these types of situations, and when the fighter does come forward and is consistent in his testimony and takes some responsibility and shows some remorse -- but I don't think that exists today."

    The one-year suspension is retroactive to the date of Silva's fight -- Jan. 31 -- which means he will be eligible to return on Jan. 31, 2016.

    The commission also fined Silva his $200,000 win bonus as well as 30 percent of his fight purse of $600,000, which equals out to another $180,000. The win against Diaz was also overturned to a no contest.

    Silva will also have to provide a clean drug test before being re-licensed in the state of Nevada.
    I see now. When Silva said "I have not taken any performance-enhancing drugs," he thought the only performance was in the cage, not in bed.
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