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    Dana White

    Check out Dana's ESPN interview
    White not worried about the competition
    By Ryan Hockensmith
    ESPN The Magazine
    Updated: July 11, 2007, 11:57 AM ET

    You wouldn't expect a wallflower to be in charge of the largest sanctioning body in mixed martial arts. And because Dana White, 36, has been UFC president since Jan. 15, 2001, you get the feeling he knows how to get things done. The former boxer and manager of UFC fighters Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell sat down for an interview with ESPN.com and -- surprise, surprise -- he didn't pull any punches.

    ESPN.com: You ran into an interesting problem this season with "The Ultimate Fighter." You had a brawl at the house between two fighters, and you reacted with a passionate speech about how too many people think that MMA is just a bunch of brawlers beating the crap out of each other. But there was also the urge to see those two in the octagon, and the UFC actually announced that that would be a fight. Take us through that decision-making process.
    Dana White: Spike really wanted that fight to happen, and we ended up booking the fight. Then I realized, 'How the [expletive] did we book that fight?' That fight will probably happen somewhere else, but it won't happen in the UFC. The thing that people have to realize is in "The Ultimate Fighter," those guys aren't UFC fighters. They want to be UFC fighters. We're looking at them through this microscope and looking at all their strengths and weaknesses. Not just in fighting, but in everyday life. Do they drink too much? Do they do this or that? We're looking for the next guy who can become a world champion. If you ask people out there, they'd love to see those two fight. But if you asked them if those two guys deserved to be in the UFC, everybody would tell you no.

    ESPN.com: At UFC 75, Dan Henderson will fight Rampage Jackson. Is this a unification bout or is this just for the UFC title?
    DW: It will absolutely be a unification bout. We have to respect Henderson's titles. He knocked out Wanderlei Silva and had the 185-pound championship. When he fights Rampage, they both have belts. Why should Dan Henderson get the UFC title if Rampage can't get the PRIDE titles? It makes one of them the undisputed guy.

    ESPN.com: Chuck Liddell versus Wanderlei Silva. Is it going happen?
    DW: God, I hope so. So many people have wanted to see that fight for so many years, and PRIDE basically killed the fight. Now that Chuck has lost, the fight makes more sense, and I'd love to make it happen. We're on the phone every day with fighters and fighters' managers. There's still work to be done.

    ESPN.com: Will this fight happen in the next six months?
    DW: I'd say yes. I honestly believe that. But when you're dealing with me, I don't believe there is a fight we can't make, a TV deal we can't do. I'm a very positive guy.

    ESPN.com: What is Chuck up to these days?
    DW: He's texting me every day, telling me he's ready to go: "When am I fighting? Who am I fighting?" He's already training again. He's ready.

    ESPN.com: What about the rumor that there will be a UFC event in November in New Jersey, at the new New Jersey Devils arena? True?
    DW: It's true, it's true. It's going to happen. We haven't announced it yet, but it will be a pay-per-view.

    ESPN.com: Where are you with the New York athletic control board?
    DW: We haven't even started working on them yet. We just got done in Illinois and Michigan. We'll start working on New York next.

    ESPN.com: What's that process like?
    DW: This thing is so big now. Everybody gets it. There's not a whole lot of explaining to do. There aren't a lot of stupid questions anymore. Rather than us going in to sell people, the control boards want it in their states.

    ESPN.com: How do you feel about the IFL, Bodog, EliteXC and other competition popping up?
    DW: It's good for us. I don't look at those guys as competition at all. They're nowhere near the league that we're in. I need shows like that. They're the feeder leagues. All the guys who fight in those shows aspire to be in the UFC someday. They're creating all the UFC talent of tomorrow.
    Dana White

    ESPN.com: Do you watch other shows?
    DW: I actually watched the IFL once, and it was [expletive] painful. These guys are minor league shows. They're necessary. I need them to exist, to continue to pay money to put on their shows. I need them to create more talent and get guys experience in fighting. But I don't worry about them. I'll give you an example. There are races going on all over the country, every weekend. But you know when NASCAR rolls into town.

    ESPN.com: Did you watch Showtime EliteXC's Phil Baroni versus Frank Shamrock recently?
    DW: I had dinner at the Palms, and I had them put it on in the room because I wanted to see Baroni knock his head off. It didn't work out that way.

    ESPN.com: What did you think of their skill levels?
    DW: They both looked bad. Phil's a good friend of mine, so it's unfortunate. Frank Shamrock is not going to fight anybody near the top-10 level.

    ESPN.com: You wouldn't be tempted to bring back Frank for a big event?
    DW: Who knows? But Frank is such a moron. He's so hard to deal with. He really is a *******. If I could get it done, maybe I would. Look at me and Tito. We don't get along at all. You won't ever find two people who work together talk more [expletive] about each other. Tito's an idiot. He's a complete, absolute moron. But we can do business.

    ESPN.com: So why not kill two birds with one stone. How about Tito versus Frank Shamrock?
    DW: Frank Shamrock would never fight Tito Ortiz. Tito would crush him. Frank's not going to fight anybody serious. He's going to very carefully handpick his opponents, and continue to play the smoke and mirrors game.

    ESPN.com: When did you know that all the work was paying off and that the UFC was about to hit it big?
    DW: When we got the Spike deal. We knew when we first bought this, we knew we needed to get sanctioned. Once we did that, we knew that would help us get back on PPV. Once we got back on PPV, we knew it was going to be very hard to get on free TV. But once we got on TV, we knew we could do it.

    ESPN.com: But you also had to deliver a good TV series.
    DW: It really did work out. If you really knew the backstory, it's [expletive] crazy. We financed the whole show ourselves; Spike wouldn't pay for it. It cost us $10 million the first season. We decided to take the shot because we believed it would work. We picked these fighters to come on, but we had no [expletive] clue what we were doing. We had a basic premise on how this show was going to work. We went and found these guys. But everything else just unfolded. I was out one day trying to get sponsors, and Lorenzo Fertita stopped by the gym. "The Contender" had started a week before everybody moved into the house. On "The Contender," it was on NBC, they had sponsors out the [expletive] and they got paid good money for every fight. When the guys heard they weren't getting paid, Lorenzo called me and said, "They're all saying they won't fight." I said, "Really? I guarantee you they'll fight." I went down and gave them the "Do you want to be a fighter" speech? That speech was 20 minutes, but you didn't see that on TV. Season 1 was an incredible, lucky experience.

    ESPN.com: Let's run through some quick UFC questions. How many PPVs for the coming year?
    DW: We want 10.

    ESPN.com: When's the HBO deal going to get done?
    DW: It will be done very soon, in a matter of weeks. People don't realize this stuff isn't easy to get done.

    ESPN.com: Fedor Emialenenko -- when will he be in the UFC?
    DW: We'll have him soon. We'll have him before the end of the year.

    ESPN.com: What's the process? Do you talk to his agent? To Bodog?
    DW: We don't talk to Bodog. We talk to his managers twice a day.

    ESPN.com: Twice a day?
    DW: It's not easy to get these contracts done. It takes time and a lot of work. There are a million sticking points. Every guy has his own set of issues, what is important to him. Plus, we have our set of standards. It takes time and a lot of negotiating. There are a lot of trust issues in this business. We want people to trust us. We're having fun. We love this business. You won't find people who love this sport who promote it as much as us. We really, truly love this thing. We bought this and were investing in this when we were losing millions of dollars and nobody cared about it. It never looked like we were going to make it on pay-per-view, let alone free TV. At the end of the day, we don't want guys who are unhappy fighting with us.

    ESPN.com: The original plan was to have mega PRIDE versus UFC events. Is that still the plan?
    DW: I don't know what we're going to do yet because that thing is so messed up. We're still trying to figure it out. It's a complete disaster. They went out of business for a reason.

    Ryan Hockensmith is an associate editor at ESPN The Magazine.
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    LOL @ Dana trying to 'entice" Frank with the "he sucks" approach !

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    Every time I see Dana White I think of a younger Don King. The guy seems like a scumbag to me, through and through. Although I respect what he and the Ferritei? brothers have done to make MMA mainstream and a more respected sport, I always get the feeling he would sell his and every fighter under him's soul if he had to. Then again he may be Mother Theresa reincarnated, but I kinda doubt that one
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". -Cus D'Amato

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    what deal are they trying to hammer out with HBO?

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    Oh so he is Tito's manager huh?
    Makes sense considering Tito's last two fights in Cali ended up more favorable to him. While IMO he was beat 1st by Forest Griffin and 2nd by Rashad Evans. Even though probably the Rashad fight was tougher to call.

    I guess Tito has to get KTFO to lose.

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    he used to be tito's manager . back befiore he ran the ufc. thats why they hate each other. tito thinks white turned his back on him when he stopped being his manager and then as president tried to screw him over with his contract. that was a long time ago.

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    i dont remember the griffin fight as well but i know with the evans fight tito only got the draw rather than a loss bc he lost a point. my reasoning is that if he hadn't grabbed it and evans had slammed him that would have won the round for evans which would have put him up 2 rounds to 1. but since tito wasn't slammed he won the round but lost the point. tito was clearly better in round one and evans was clearly better in round 3.

    so yeah it was a close fight, in the end i would probably have to give it to evans. but you never know what would have happened. maybe tito would have pulled ahead in spite of being taken down if he hadn't grabbed the fence.

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    fedor would be coming!!! nice.
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    I dunno, seems to me that whenever pride guys jump ship to ufc it's never
    a walk in the park for them. One trick pony Crocop was dissapointing and
    Noguiera nearly got ktfo. He should've lost but the other guy didn't capitalize!
    Rampage and Henderson should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Eagle_76 View Post
    Every time I see Dana White I think of a younger Don King. The guy seems like a scumbag to me, through and through. Although I respect what he and the Ferritei? brothers have done to make MMA mainstream and a more respected sport, I always get the feeling he would sell his and every fighter under him's soul if he had to. Then again he may be Mother Theresa reincarnated, but I kinda doubt that one
    Interesting observation . Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by banditshaw View Post
    Oh so he is Tito's manager huh?
    Makes sense considering Tito's last two fights in Cali ended up more favorable to him. While IMO he was beat 1st by Forest Griffin and 2nd by Rashad Evans. Even though probably the Rashad fight was tougher to call.

    I guess Tito has to get KTFO to lose.

    dana white WAS Tito's manager BEFORE the bought the UFC. Their relationship, as far as fighter and manager goes, has been over for years.

    And why don't some of you stop being haters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lama Pai Sifu View Post
    dana white WAS Tito's manager BEFORE the bought the UFC. Their relationship, as far as fighter and manager goes, has been over for years.

    And why don't you all stop being haters.
    Thanks, Brucesteveroy made that known a few posts back.

    I don't hate on the UFC. I quite enjoy it. I just thought some of the decisions were a little biased towards Tito. It's to be expected tho cuz Tito's been in the game longer and he is a crowd drawer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banditshaw View Post
    Thanks, Brucesteveroy made that known a few posts back.

    I don't hate on the UFC. I quite enjoy it. I just thought some of the decisions were a little biased towards Tito. It's to be expected tho cuz Tito's been in the game longer and he is a crowd drawer.
    Another interesting observation. Thanks

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    Fedor will clean house in the UFC. White needs to be careful what he asks for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jow yeroc View Post
    I dunno, seems to me that whenever pride guys jump ship to ufc it's never
    a walk in the park for them. One trick pony Crocop was dissapointing and
    Noguiera nearly got ktfo. He should've lost but the other guy didn't capitalize!
    Rampage and Henderson should be interesting.
    Fedor will have little difficulty in the UFC, IMO.

    How would Mark Hunt do in the UFC? He's probably the hardest one for Fedor to finish in the last year or so...

    Quote Originally Posted by banditshaw
    I don't hate on the UFC. I quite enjoy it. I just thought some of the decisions were a little biased towards Tito. It's to be expected tho cuz Tito's been in the game longer and he is a crowd drawer.
    Think about the last two Ortiz/Liddel fights, Dana seemed to favor Liddel and I've had that opinion since the fights (first fight, TKO to Liddel after jabbing a thumb in Tito's eye, second TKO to Liddel, questionable ref stoppage).
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