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    Question Interesting article

    The latest issue of KF Taichi has an nicely done article by Mr. JOhn Page in it on "Xing Yi Taichi." OVerall the article was well put together, but I have one question regarding a comment made within the pages....
    The author states that Guo Yunsheng mixed Taiji with their Che Style Xin Yi creating a hybrid system of internal martial art. Subsequently Guo passed on his teachings to Bu Xuekuan, and Sun Lu Tang. The author then goes on to say that Sun's Taiji system was in fact NOT created by Sun, but rather it is the hybrid Xing Yi-Taiji system as passed on by Guo.
    I find this quite interesting, but the rest of the article mentions nothing else in regards to this claim. So I was wondering two things:
    1) What proof does the author have in making such a claim?
    2) Has anyone else heard of this before? This is a new one to me, but alas I am still quite young in the martial arts so perhaps something has alluded my understanding.

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    No one??
    Jake
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    never heard of Guo Yunsheng doing any Tai Chi.

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    there was a meeting that the 3 styles will study from another.

    so there is Xing Yi in Ba gua. There is Xing Yi in Tai Chi.

    there is Ba Gua in Tai Chi etc.


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    Interesting, but neither reply responds to my original question regarding the allegation that Sun did not create Sun Taiji! No one is chiming in on this one anywhere. Makes me think it is merely some author talking out his arse!

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    Jake
    "Gravity doesn't lie, and the ground never misses."
    Jake Burroughs
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    http://neijiaquan.com/images/xiaoran/article/406.html

    according this article posted from Sun style Neijia fist website.

    Jiang Rong Qiao mentioned the first integration of the 3 styles is from the meeting of Dong Hai Chuan, Yang Lu Chan and Guo Yun Sheng. but more research done disapproved this.

    In the record or written book, Sun Lu Tang (1860-1933) wrote "Xing Yi Quan Xue"(published 1915), "Tai Chi Quan Xue" (1919) and "Ba Gua Quan Xue" (1916). In these 3 books, Sun was the first one to discuss the universal theory of practice of Nei Jin and the theory of neutralization which is the common theme of the three styles.

    There are more discussions in Sun's 3 books.

    so in terms of history or written record/books, Sun Lu Tang was the first to "integrate" the 3 on a common theme or theory and practice.

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    Last edited by SPJ; 07-29-2007 at 04:45 PM.

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