The Only Truly Authentic Shaolin System

[Siu Lum Fighter]

Thanks for the sarcasm bub. Don't forget when I'm talking about "Shaolin", I'm talking about the 10 core handsets and all of the myriad weapons sets that are and were a part of what the people knew as the "Shaolin" style of kung fu prior to the The Cultural Revolution. I'm not talking about Hung Ga, Northern Longfist, Choy Lay Fut, Five Animals (although Five Animals was one of the styles practiced at Honan), or any of the local styles in Honan. We're talking about the 10 sets that all of the monks and lay disciples were most likely required to learn. If you want to say that all of the Shaolin related styles are authentic Shaolin, then why not just call Karate, and Tae Kwon Do authentic Shaolin?

http://jingmo.org/curriculum.html
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezin...hp?article=158

[TenTigers]

what are the ten forms? Are they the same ten forms as Ku Yu Cheong's?

[Pk_StyLeZ]

so....why do you believe your lineage and not someone elses lineage?
anyone can easily claim they learn from blah blah in the year yada yada and learn from who who doing this time..blah blah blah
who cares
NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO PROVE WHICH IS THE AUTHENTHIC STYLE OF THE ORIGINAL AND FIRST SHAOLIN
these debates are stupid and pointless.
china been corrupted so many time, and chinese people lie and scam a lot, you never know who to beleive, sad but true.

and here we go again with the new shaolin being all wushu stuff, mang you people need to go behind the scene and actually see that there is tradtional inside and only mostly wushu is performed BECAUSE THAT WHAT CATCHES THE "GENERAL" AUDIENCE ATTENTION and that wat pays and make the money...........

[Siu Lum Fighter]

TenTiger:
Yes, I am talking about Kuo Yu Chang's (or Cheong's) 10 sets. These were directly passed down from Gan Fengchi and/or Chi Yuan. There are two versions of what happened during this tumultuous time for Shaolin. They go something like this:

Theory 1: This one was originally published in New Martial Hero in the 1970's by Ou Hu Shou who was a classmate of GM Yim Shan Wu. This one is very popular with GM Yim Shan Wu's generation and maybe even earlier generations before Yim's.

Monk Chih Yuan to Feng Shao Ch'en to Hsu Wen San to Yim Po to Yim Chi Wen to Kuo Yu Chang.

Theory 2: This one is popular with the next generation after GM Yim Shan Wu, namely Sifu Chan Kwok Wai who is the lower classmate of Sifu Wong Jack Man.

Monk Chao Yuan Ho Shang to Gan Feng Chi to Wan Pang Ts'ai to Yim Te Kung to Yim Chi Wen to Kuo Yu Chang.

Here's another interesting page about my original sifu:
http://www.geocities.com/jadedragona...k.man_txt.html

Pk_StyLeZ:
There has been some confusion when it comes to the lineage before Yim Chi Wen and that's only because no one remembered exactly who taught it to who before the 1800's. All of the above mentioned masters were known practitioners of the same style though. Are you saying that all of these venerable masters were corrupt? Bei Shaolin is closer to what the monks were actually using and studying all the way up until the 1700's. And since when were the original shaolin monks interested in making money and paying bills?

[mkriii]

so....why do you believe your lineage and not someone elses lineage?
anyone can easily claim they learn from blah blah in the year yada yada and learn from who who doing this time..blah blah blah
who cares
NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO PROVE WHICH IS THE AUTHENTHIC STYLE OF THE ORIGINAL AND FIRST SHAOLIN
these debates are stupid and pointless.
china been corrupted so many time, and chinese people lie and scam a lot, you never know who to beleive, sad but true.

and here we go again with the new shaolin being all wushu stuff, mang you people need to go behind the scene and actually see that there is tradtional inside and only mostly wushu is performed BECAUSE THAT WHAT CATCHES THE "GENERAL" AUDIENCE ATTENTION and that wat pays and make the money...........

Thats a pretty bold (and brave) statement to make saying that Chinese people lie and scam. Are you sure that all Chinese people do this? Do Americans lie and scam? Who lies and scams more? Maybe you should think about that statement a little bit more carefully.