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    How do you realistically defend against a Dog?

    Every summer two cats go missing a day in my neighbourhood from coyotes, that come down to the suburbs from the mountains. Today while walking to the store I saw a full grown coyote. I walked up behind it hoping it would get frightened and run for the hills, but the little ******* turned around and stepped to me. As it came in it caught me off gaurd so i could only do a light blend of a rear muay thai round kick and an inside crescent kick...I only clipped his beak with the top of my shoe, which is the crescent kick, but I wiped through his face using the slashing mechanics of a thai kick...I busted my knuckles on my right hand so all I do for the last month is kick the bag for like two hours a day, so it was a natural reaction technique...no real power...just executed to create distance, which it did perfectly.

    So, the beak shot shook him up good, and he wouldn't charge after that...I shouted at him a bit, and he ran up the alley, but kept stopping to stand his ground, so I grabbed a chunk of concrete sitting in a pile in a nearby yard and chucked it at him, missing by a foot...the bugger chased the rock, then I gave him one more shout to step off, then I turned and walked, and the he ran away...conniving bugger that wily cat is...sucker just couldn't not stop holding his ground...I felt compassioniatte for his circumstance being hungry, but I love cats more than dogs, so I was willing to kill the coyote with my heel if I had to.

    My question is...say i missed him with the right inside crescent kick, and then he darted in and lockjawed my support ankle...how best do I get him off me, like what are the details for gouging eyes, ripping nostrils, and manhandling eardrums etc?.

    this is a serious threa...the coyote I could have rocked with my feet...but a wolf or a maddog german shepard...I'd be scared!.
    Last edited by diego; 07-21-2007 at 07:32 PM.

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    Offer him your left hand, and as he tries to take it pull back, and with your right hand plow down along the side of his head so your arm checks his mouth preventing a bite. Reach in and grab his paw. Then stand up as fast as you can flipping him in circles in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
    Offer him your left hand, and as he tries to take it pull back, and with your right hand plow down along the side of his head so your arm checks his mouth preventing a bite. Reach in and grab his paw. Then stand up as fast as you can flipping him in circles in the air.
    are you serious?

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    If he does bite your hand, hook your fingers down under his toung to the floor of his mouth and ram down and in as hard as you can. It will force his head to his chest and relive the bitting pressure at the same time. You will sustain some injury, but if you follow by mounting from the rear and pulling his jaw bone into his neck as hard as you can, he will be forced to release his grip. You can choke him out BJJ style with relative ease at this point if you like, same as you would a person.

    From there, you can also pin him with a half or full nelson and just lay on him till he tires too much to fight.

    I used to full on spar Theresa's Shepard. He was vicious and refused to loose. I got bit a couple times, but eventually figured out that dogs are easy to controll in a fight. Thier reflexes are not faster than yours if you have any martial skill at all.

    Your best bet (seriously) is to unleash some BJJ on them.
    Last edited by RD'S Alias - 1A; 07-21-2007 at 07:44 PM.

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    If you do as I say, he cannot turn his head towards you to bite. He's on a bad angle because you just got superior position on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
    are you serious?

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    D@mmm Straight!!
    but the flipping in circles...won't he just land, get up and attack?

    what if he catches my support ankle after a missed kick...how do I reach down and remove his teeth from my shoe?....besides taking my shoe off

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    You should not be fighting a dog with stand up, you need to think Shui Jiao. Get in close and clinch him then go for the throw.

    If you use the throw I explained above you will most likely sprain his left leg enough to make him think twice about engaging you a second time. If he's dumb enough to try again, next time step in and behind so you end up laying on top of his back and then choke him out.

    Also, Dogs do not land on thier feet like cats If you can enter like I explained you can feed into all sorts of pile driving throws and take downs that will put him on his side or back and will allow you to gain top controll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
    I used to full on spar Theresa's Shepard. He was vicious and refused to loose. I got bit a couple times, but eventually figured out that dogs are easy to controll in a fight. Thier reflexes are not faster than yours if you have any martial skill at all.

    Your best bet (seriously) is to unleash some BJJ on them.
    If you put this on DVD and marketed it as self defense against wild dogs or rabid dogs, I bet you'd make a bundle. There's got to be a better label for it than those I suggest, but there's lots of people out there who are afraid of dogs so I'm sure there's a market. I just want to see video footage of you illustrating all these things you say on a live dog (not full power of course), so I can understand what you're saying.
    I was on the metro earlier, deep in meditation, when a ruffian came over and started causing trouble. He started pushing me with his bag, steadily increasing the force until it became very annoying. When I turned to him, before I could ask him to stop, he immediately started hurling abuse like a scoundrel. I performed a basic chin na - carotid artery strike combination and sent him to sleep. The rest of my journey was very peaceful, and passersby hailed me as a hero - Warrior Man

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    Some crazy ideas in this thread!

    #1 Don't sneak up behind it!!

    You're putting the coyote in a dangerous situation, by being that close. It's like cornering it. They are probably in survival mode, and they don't know humans like a domestic dog. A snake will slither away but if you get too close, it has to defend itself or die.

    Grab a garbage can or something if you're going to go towards it, but still don't sneak up on them.

    #2 Stay away from it's mouth. Don't let it bite you. Like a knife, don't get stabbed.
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    you know when it gets right down to it, if you are attacked by a dog,and a big dog for that matter, you are fuked, no ands ifs or buts about it. you are going to get bitten and if it is two dogs attacking you then you are even more majorly fuked than when you got attacked by one dog. you WILL get ripped apart, you will p!ss yourself silly as you are being attacked, you will pray to god that you survive and then IF you come out of it alive, then its off to the ER for rabies shots as well as stitches and then reconstructive surgey to make yourself look like "normal" again. This is FACT.

    As for all the coyote comments, coyotes will NEVER allow you to get within 20 yds of them let alone 20 inches. they are reclusive and shy and they will NEVER let you know that they are at your doorstep UNTIL they have carried off your livestock and then yip and yodel off in the distance to celebrate their nightly hunt. you will hear them but you will never see them except in very rare cases.

    (since we dont go around carrying sticks and bats and swords and shotguns) The ONLY thing that will help you in a dog attack is IF you are a licensed handgun owner and you have it with you. MACE will just come flowing back into your face and then YOU will be even MORE FUKED THAN FUKED.

    Thank your creator or however you see the world and kharma that you have not been attacked by a dog, because if you do get attacked,what did i say before??? YES i said your fuked.
































    your fuked.

    Peace,TWS
    Last edited by The Willow Sword; 10-11-2007 at 02:09 PM.
    It makes me mad when people say I turned and ran like a scared rabbit. Maybe it was like an angry rabbit, who was going to fight in another fight, away from the first fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Willow Sword View Post
    you know when it gets right down to it, if you are attacked by a dog,and a big dog for that matter, you are fuked, no ands ifs or buts about it. you are going to get bitten and if it is two dogs attacking you then you are even more majorly fuked than when you got attacked by one dog. you WILL get ripped apart, you will p!ss yourself silly as you are being attacked, you will pray to god that you survive and then IF you come out of it alive, then its off to the ER for rabies shots as well as stitches and then reconstructive surgey to make yourself look like "normal" again. This is FACT.

    As for all the coyote comments, coyotes will NEVER allow you to get within 20 yds of them let alone 20 inches. they are reclusive and shy and they will NEVER let you know that they are at your doorstep UNTIL they have carried off your livestock and then yip and yodel off in the distance to celebrate their nightly hunt. you will hear them but you will never see them except in very rare cases.

    (since we dont go around carrying sticks and bats and swords and shotguns) The ONLY thing that will help you in a dog attack is IF you are a licensed handgun owner and you have it with you. MACE will just come flowing back into your face and then YOU will be even MORE FUKED THAN FUKED.

    Thank your creator or however you see the world and kharma that you have not been attacked by a dog, because if you do get attacked,what did i say before??? YES i said your fuked.



    your fuked.

    Peace,TWS



    its funny the morning "walkers" do carry sticks around here!

    wolfgang

    my dog has killed three coyotes
    he's mean as HELL
    he likes to fight
    he's bitten 6 people
    (a total of 18 stitches)
    10 days solitary @ animal control
    got his "prison' tattoo

    I have to be careful with him around unfamiliar people.

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    hold ur arm out and present your the outside of your hand (the side with knuckles on it) have your hand just flop let it smell your hand and the dog will ussaully become freindly if it dosn't your hands in a position were it probably wont be sereiously injured (watch your wrist though) and push your hand up (in the same position) this is kind of like a drunken technique to the dogs lower jaw the send your fingers into the dogs eyes. You could also kick it in the ribs dogs are quite weak their.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUK SING View Post
    hold ur arm out and present your the outside of your hand (the side with knuckles on it) have your hand just flop let it smell your hand and the dog will ussaully become freindly if it dosn't your hands in a position were it probably wont be sereiously injured (watch your wrist though) and push your hand up (in the same position) this is kind of like a drunken technique to the dogs lower jaw the send your fingers into the dogs eyes. You could also kick it in the ribs dogs are quite weak their.
    Put out your hand? I have a scar on my hand that is solid proof that that is a terrible idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Put out your hand? I have a scar on my hand that is solid proof that that is a terrible idea.
    Thats still a good ide because it stops it going to your face stomach or leg.

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