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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyfoot View Post
    Somewhat aprehensive at first I stayed at a medium range and very nearly took a roundhouse headshot because of it. I literally got a double forarm block up just in time to prevent it connecting.
    Yep, that's why I said keep your hands up. The good ones are very smooth and agile with feints and head shots. Their combos can be pretty fast, and they can run at you and kick combinations at the same time.

    They tend to have a high center of gravity that's shifted towards the back. Check out the lead hip, often it's tilted up and back, and it takes only a relaxed twitch at the hip to shoot a kick at you.

    It can be helpful to get under his kicks and lift up and forward with kwa rather than to do a double forearm smash. Kwa is handy against their axe kick. scoop from underneath and slam the kick down and behind you faster than he is kicking. That pulls their balance forward onto their lead leg and gives you their head for hook punch, clothesline, dun pak takedown and similar.

    They are not used to grabbing and sweeps to inside of leg. They tend to bounce a lot and have good explosiveness in the calves. Don't waste time bouncing. Just slam some low kicks into his calf to make it hard for him to explode his kicks at you. Nail the upper thigh, both outer and inner.

    Don't bother trying to grab any jabs, and don't waste time trying to grab his wrist. If he's wearing a uniform, the sleeve is way better for grabbing. Twist rather and pull on the sleeve and that will lock his wrist and elbow as you go for the head.
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    wow, tons of overanalyzation...sorry guys but I'm feeling picky.

    hit him in the leg then hit him in the head.

    repeat as necessary.

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    Hehe... yah, what he said

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN-tFPZeqBc

    Low kick after combo to head like at 2:00

    Kick his kicking leg like at 2:03

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    wow, tons of overanalyzation...sorry guys but I'm feeling picky.
    I'd hate to have to quote Sun Tsu to you, so I wont, but he did have a point...

    -N- Thanks again for the great input. I agree about the grabbing. He wasn't commiting enough with his punches for the ou lou tsai to work. Its a good technique, but i've always had mixed results with it. His stance was pretty solid too in that he didn't bounce as much as other TKD players. But yes, his COG was definately higher than mine so theres a lot of room for up-rooting him.

    Ill keep it simple

    craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyfoot View Post
    I'd hate to have to quote Sun Tsu to you, so I wont, but he did have a point...

    didn't say he didn't and I wasn't referring to just -N-'s post.

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    -N- Thanks again for the great input. I agree about the grabbing. He wasn't commiting enough with his punches for the ou lou tsai to work. Its a good technique, but i've always had mixed results with it. His stance was pretty solid too in that he didn't bounce as much as other TKD players. But yes, his COG was definately higher than mine so theres a lot of room for up-rooting him.

    Ill keep it simple

    craig
    I agree, gou lou cai isn't best for a quick jab but if your sensitivity is good enough you can change before you commit to the pluck or after your grip slips and follow his retreating arm back for a nice 4-course meal delivered to his head: straight, elbow, wrap and then knee the crap out of him.
    "George never did wake up. And, even all that talking didn't make death any easier...at least not for us. Maybe, in the end, all you can really hope for is that your last thought is a nice one...even if it's just about the taste of a nice cold beer."

    "If you find the right balance between desperation and fear you can make people believe anything"

    "Is enlightenment even possible? Or, did I drive by it like a missed exit?"

    It's simpler than you think.

    I could be completely wrong"

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    I find that most people who want to just kick quickly find themselves without a game plan when you plant your fist square on their nose. If you're recovering, and you're quick with a knee trap, just watch the leg with the least weight on it, and if you see the knee raise, push it back to the ground, and follow it with a hard straight. It has to be quick, though. Gets him to stumble, and generally drops his hands (natural reaction to find balance). Don't try and break the leg, push it back, like a push kick.
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    BTW, you can have all the info at hand on how to defeat a TKD guy. But seriously, if you're more aggressive, don't drop your defenses, are in good shape, and are fast with your hands, you'll win. TKD matches (I've seen plenty), generally consist of lots of feinting and posturing, trying just to make contact somewhere. All you have to do is plant your fist on his nose or eye, and keep on making contact with his face, and it should change his tactics. But as all say, they can kick the hell out of you if you drop your guard.
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    Like most Korean arts, their stances are not very strong in the spine. They're catered to giving structure to people with weak spines. If you have a strong spine, you'll win. Because I can guarantee that the TKD man won't.
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    hey people

    sorry ive not updated - what can i say.... Rain, Rain, Rain

    craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Takeshi View Post
    Like most Korean arts, their stances are not very strong in the spine. They're catered to giving structure to people with weak spines. If you have a strong spine, you'll win. Because I can guarantee that the TKD man won't.
    this guy is such a D o r k

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    Grab his Tae, hit him in the Kwan and kick his Do. Easy as that.


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    I saw the 3 Stooges do that before!

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    Make sure to go into detail when you post the fight results.

    My advice to you: Off-line, move in.
    Last edited by NJM; 08-20-2007 at 09:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaolin Wookie View Post
    All you have to do is plant your fist on his nose or eye, and keep on making contact with his face, and it should change his tactics.
    Easier said than done. Back when I was going to school at Cal, I sparred Berkeley's intercollegiate champion a few times. He was over 6' tall and about 215 lbs. I was 5'10" and about 160 back then. Wasn't easy trying to nail him.

    There were a couple Korean brothers at the time. They got their black belts growing up in Korea. They were impressive bad @sses too.

    N.

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