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    Abbot scandals

    Dispute over sports car for China's most famous monk
    www.chinaview.cn 2006-08-22 20:32:16
    ZHENGZHOU, Aug. 22 (Xinhua) -- The gift of a luxury sports car by the Dengfeng City government to a monk for his contributions tothe local tourism industry has stirred up a heated debate on the Internet.

    Shi Yongxin, the abbot of Shaolin Temple in Dengfeng in Henan Province, received the 1 million yuan (125,000 U.S. dollars) vehicle eight days ago at the city's tourism promotion conference.

    "I will try my best to promote martial arts to the world in an attempt to boost local tourism. I dream of getting a bigger prize next year," said the abbot who is in charge of the place widely considered to be the birthplace of China's famed kungfu.

    Following the award ceremony, tens of thousands of netizens pasted their opinions on net forums or surveys conducted by China's major web portals, including sina.com, sohu.com, yahoo.comand netease.com, to discuss the contentious move.

    Results of the survey show that about three-quarters of the respondents consider that giving a luxury sedan to a monk is inappropriate.

    "Shaolin monks are renowned for their austerity, transcriptions of religious classics and marvelous martial arts, but now, luxury goods have entered their lives, proving that the religious world has been violated by worldly concepts," an anonymous netizen wrote.

    The netizen called for spiritual encouragement for religious people rather than material rewards.

    Some of the criticism targets monks, saying they should not enjoy modern luxury goods in temples. "They have forgotten what their purpose is and are concentrating on what they shouldn't do," wrote a dissenter with the internet name "virtuous-way".

    "His duty is to boost the martial arts spirit. Even if he contributes a lot to local tourism he should not be given a car," commented a netizen, adding that it is wrong to spend one million yuan on a car in a underdeveloped province.

    Agriculture-oriented Henan is the most populous province in China with 96.67 million. The population will top 100 million in 2009, according to a recent estimate by English-language newspaper China Daily.

    Poor villagers struggle to make a living. One of the most tragic aspects of Henan life is the existence of "AIDS villages" harboring people who contracted AIDS from dirty needles when they sold blood to illegal blood banks.

    Those support the move consider the award is proper because driving and praying do not conflict each other in a monk's life.

    "The Shaolin temple has made a large amount of profits over past years as its fame has escalated around the world. It is proper to reward the abbot with a sedan," a supporter with net-name of "Shaolin-believer" wrote.

    "It is reasonable to award a person who made contributions to local tourism," a post says, adding that those who oppose the move may have never achieved anything.

    "There aren't any laws to stipulate that monks can't drive a car," says another post, adding that the temple does a lot for local tourism due to their fame.

    Shaolin Temple, built at Songshan Mountain in 496 during the Northern and Southern dynasties (420-581), has attracted nearly three million domestic and overseas tourists and gained an income of 75.5 million yuan (9.4 million US dollars), up 49 and 65.4 percent respectively over the same period last year.

    Shaolin's martial arts has been gaining influence worldwide as actors of Chinese origin, such as Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan, use its stunts in a wide range of overseas films.

    In 1987, former abbot of the Shaolin Temple passed away. Since then Shi Yongxin, who had joined the temple only six years before, has adopted the long robes and bowl of the venerable abbot, and stepped up the post of director of the Shaolin Temple Management Committee.

    Becoming an abbot at the age of 22, earlier than any other monastery head in China, Shi Yongxin has constantly caused people to re-evaluate their traditional notions about Buddhist monks with his business-minded transformation of the temple and its arts, and promotion of Buddhism throughout the world over the past two decades.

    Since 1986, he has led Shaolin monk delegations across China and abroad to perform Shaolin martial arts shows. In 1994, he played a leading role in the Chinese religious community in applying for "Shaolin" and "Shaolin Temple" to be registered as trademarks, and established a company for the management of the relevant intellectual property .

    In 1996, when the Internet was in its first stages of being introduced to China, he established the official Web site of the Shaolin Temple.

    During recent years, Shi has devoted much effort to the largest ever renovation project in the 1,500-year history of Shaolin Temple.

    So far, the temple has been visited by leaders of many countries worldwide including Russian President Putin. Meanwhile, the temple has dispatched "standing martial monks" to more than 20countries, whose function is to conduct training and exchange programs there with the aim to spread the word of Buddhism and the Shaolin culture.

    In addition, the martial-art performing delegations of the Shaolin Temple have visited more than 60 countries and regions. Their performances have instilled a respect and genuine interest in Shaolin culture across the world.

    On the dispute of sedan award, the view of Shi is that if a monk wished to be respected, he must make contributions to the world outside of religious circle because all the dignitary monks in Chinese history gained their fame through great contributions to society.

    "Via TV, Internet or whatever manner for spreading Buddhism and Shaolin culture, the theme of our efforts to promote religious development and Chinese martial arts is the same," the abbot said. Enditem

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    I don't see a problem with it. The abbot recieved a fancy ride. Good for him. It doesn't make him a greedy person.

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    gift.........

    to recieve a gift from someone in no way goes against any buddhist principles....i dont think the venerable abbot did any good deeds for any kind of gain..........so promote shaolin let people see the beauty of shaolin chan and gong fu.......id give him my car too for a minutes worth of their information now thats wealth....so yea ....fast and the furious....shaolin drift..............

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    To the abbotmobile!

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    ok..its ok to recieve a gift...
    but its messed up to say " I dream of getting a bigger prize next year"..espcially from an *abbot*
    i think that what got people mad.....
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    "His duty is to boost the martial arts spirit. Even if he contributes a lot to local tourism he should not be given a car," commented a netizen, adding that it is wrong to spend one million yuan on a car in a underdeveloped province.
    I think that's the issue right there... You have a poor area and give a fancy car to someone who obviously isn't supposed to care about getting personal luxeries. It's a big fat waste of money

    Though, I think with that comment about getting a bigger prize, I really think he's meaning to tell people he wants to do an even better job of increasing tourism.

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    One could say it's wrong to have government surplus dollars when there is homelessness in any shape or form.

    One could say Lottery commissions are wrong for granting huge prizes to single individuals and not redistributing the monies out to those who need it most.

    One could say that, and one could find many other examples of things that are wrong with how money is used or how wealth is distributed to people.

    But it's a prize, the abbot is a man. Let him enjoy his prize and see what he does with it. As long as he's not attached to his material thing it doesn't matter does it.
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    One could say it's wrong to have government surplus dollars when there is homelessness in any shape or form.
    When government dollars are being used for personal gifts for politicians, yes it is wrong.

    One could say Lottery commissions are wrong for granting huge prizes to single individuals and not redistributing the monies out to those who need it most.
    If lotteries redistributed all the money to those who need it most, it wouldn't be a lottery would it. Lotteries have their own problems though, and many do argue that they shouldn't exist

    One could say that, and one could find many other examples of things that are wrong with how money is used or how wealth is distributed to people.
    Yes, one could say that and many do! There's lots of problems like that in the world, and though not really the worst case, this certainly is one of them.

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    Possible Graft

    Graft is a very real, very serious, and very sensitive legal / regulatory issue for any government organization and corporation – Chinese and foreign alike. Going forward the temple has some very serious corporate governance issues to deal with, not to mention the need to bring in some experienced managerial brainpower to take over its corporate and strategic functions. Dont be surprised either if you see the abbott Shi Yong Xin himself going for a Harvard MBA in the near future.

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    Let's not forget his roots either.
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    Hasn't the Shaolin temple traditionally had great wealth? I have to admit the sports car was out in left field, but a monetary gift of that size for maintenance of the temple and those who preserve it's tradition, would not be entirely out of line. Maybe they'd be able to buy better training equipment and keep the grounds in better repair.

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    As usual I have to step up and correct my fellow forumites, you are missing the message of the post. What you should be posting is " ****!, let's see what that ride looks like!, Where's the pics Gene?"
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    This incident is a very serious infringement on anti graft law in China and is setting a very dangerous precedent. Not to mention that news of it will further frustrate the dirt poor farmers of the province and create more social instability for the government. Overall it was a very stupid move and all parties involved should have known better.

    The abbot does not work for free. Shi Yongxin already earns a salary for the job responsibilities he performs - rumored to be above Rmb40,000 / month (about USD5,000). Not to mention fringe benefits. This type of income is well above most senior Chinese executives, not to mention the average monthly income rural farmers earn of Rmb300 (US$40). Where was the abbots greater sense of compassion when he accepted that car?

    In order to reverse this illegal PR blunder the temple will have to return the car, and then make some a petty face saving donation to some local farming village. Dont be surprised is a few low level accounting clerks also loose thier jobs over this.

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    It's a Volkswagon SUV

    There's a pic in the following article

    Ancient temple, modern monks
    By Xiao Guo
    Updated: 2006-08-16 10:35
    Shaolin monks are renowned for their austerity and tedious transcriptions of religious classics. But now, luxury goods have entered their lives.

    The abbot of the Shaolin temple in the central province of Henan, Shi Yongxin, was rewarded with a spectacular sports sedan worth 1 million Yuan (US$125, 000) for his contributions to the local tourism industry, the Henan-based Dahe Daily reported on August 15.

    "I will try my best to promote martial arts to the world in an attempt to boost local tourism. I dream of getting a bigger prize next year, " says the abbot who is in charge of a place widely considered as the birthplace of China's famed Kungfu action.

    But the contentious move is likely to stir heated discussion.

    Eighty-two respondents do not consider that giving a luxury sedan to a monk is not proper, according to a questionnaire conducted by sina.com, one of China's leading web portals.

    "The Shaolin temple has made a large amount of profits these past years as its fame has escalated around the world. It is not proper to reward the abbot with a sedan," an anonymous netizen wrote.

    Some of the criticism targets monks, saying they should look down on their fame. "They have forgotten what they should do and are concentrating on what they shouldn't do," wrote an anonymous netizen.

    "It is his duty to boost the martial arts spirit. Even if he contributes a lot to local tourism he should not be given a car," commented a netizen, adding that it is wrong to spend 1 million Yuan on a car in a poverty-stricken province.

    Agriculture-oriented Henan is the most populous province in China. By the end of 2003, the population of Henan was 96.67 million. It is estimated to hit 100 million by 2009 according to domestic media reports.

    Villagers struggle to make a living due to the poverty, creating AIDS villages that many of the villagers were infected with AIDS through dirty needles used when they sold blood to illegal blood banks.

    Another 33 respondents are in favor of the move.

    "It is reasonable to award a person who made contributions to local tourism," a post says, adding that those who oppose the move may have never achieved anything.

    "There aren't any laws to stipulate that monks can't drive a car," says a post, adding that the temple does a lot for local tourism due to their fame.

    Thirty-one others remain neutral.

    International recognition of the temple has boosted Shi's fame.

    In July 9, he went to Germany to watch the finals of the World Cup at the invitation of FIFA president Joseph S. Blatter.
    In the Dengfeng area, all the big grandmasters like Chen Tongshan, the Liu Clan and Liang Yiquan have expensive rides and chaffeurs. I've had the priviledge of riding in Chen's car, a big fat fully-loaded Toyota SUV. You got to remember that such vehicles are harder to come by in China, so they really stick out. I wouldn't blink at a Toyota SUV here in CA, but in China, especially Dengfeng, it's like a hummer limo or something. So with the abbot, who has had a nice car for some time and also holds a position with the People's Congress, is somewhat expected to have a pimp ride. Of course, everyone has their perception of what a Buddhist abbot is supposed to be like, but that's generally based on a medieval ideal that doesn't really apply to the modern world. It's like monks with cell phones. That really messes with some people, especially westerners. Kwai Chang Caine didn't have a cell phone. But then again, if you're comparing today's monks to Caine, well, just think that over a little more.

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    but that's generally based on a medieval ideal that doesn't really apply to the modern world.
    lol. You just described how a lot of people think kungfu should be as well with this little nugget.
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