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    We should all just study iron crotch and train like they did in Bloodsport. Then, when they shoot, we just drop into full splits and let them KO themselves on our iron crotches.

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    Dedicated Shuia Chiao and Chin Na practioner that competes in SanDa should do fairly well with a BJJ practitioner. Got anyone of those around? I myself is severely lacking in Shuia Chiao, not even sure if I am spelling that correctly.

    I have a friend that take BJJ. After 6 or so beers we usually end up sparring. I put a good whipping on him standing up. Last time we sparred at my apts pool area, I keep dropping him with a round kick to the ribs everytime he came in to shoot. He is also prone to sweeps if I excute them fast enough. When he shoots in, I always try to do a rear legged 360 sweep. Most time I am fast enough and it drops him. Sometimes, I get pinned on the ground. Stand up I pretty much can pick and choose what I want to do. However, once he gets a hold of me, I am basically going down. I can get out of most of the submission holds due to my chin na training. But he can still get hits on me at will on the ground. I have difficulty taking him down in a clinch, but then again I am really hesitant to do so. I make him fight my way for as long as I can for the most part. I think with some shuia chiao training, I could fair well against him. He's been in BJJ for 3yrs. and was in wrestling in HS and college.

    One on One competition style fighting, BJJ is pretty difficult to defeat.
    Last edited by xcakid; 08-19-2007 at 10:31 AM.
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    If you cross train in BJJ you will be able to defend from the ground, you can use your Kung Fu for your stand up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
    If you cross train in BJJ you will be able to defend from the ground, you can use your Kung Fu for your stand up.
    I am somewhat of a purist. I will study Shiua Chiao first before I give in to this trend of BJJ. Unless of course its a womens class, then I am all for it.

    Somehow being in kissing proximity of a sweaty guy named Bob and "mounting" him just does not sound like MA to me. More like gay porn. With all the grunting and red faced efforts. No thanks.

    Doesn't sound macho on the streets either. Can you imagine threatening a guy. "I gonna mount you and beat you to a pulp" In some neighborhoods that's a romantic evening for a guy and his life partner.
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    Its ALL there, all the secrets of the universe, if you just looooook....

    Quote Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A View Post
    All the tools ARE there, you just need to develop them.

    Oh brother, here we go again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonH View Post
    Let them come at you. Usually, when someone is taught to take someone to the ground, they say go for their center of gravity. When they lean forward, wrapping their arm(s) around your waist/abdomin, put your elbow at the base of the back of their neck, just above the spot where the shoulders meet the neck. With the same arm, scoop under their upper arm (if you press down with your right elbow, use your right hand to scoop under the upper end of their right upper arm) and pull up on that arm, while you press down on their neck and drop your weight. Don't do it too quickly because this move will extremely easily break a neck making them paralyzed or dead. Going down on one knee is enough to stop a lot of people, just just don't let your body drop like a sack of potatoes. When doing this move, you have to be controlled. No joke. Doing that move, the average neck can only stand about 140 pounds before it's too much. If a little pain this way doesn't stop them, hammer down with your free hand on them. Or make a fist with your free hand, but put the tip of your thumb against the side of first joint of the index finger after the knuckle. The tip of the thumb uses the side of the joint as a support and slam the joint of the thumb that juts out when it is in this position. Hit their temple with this jutting out joint. Just don't let yourself get too carried away with the temple striking and put more pressure on the back of their neck than you should be giving them.

    LOL! Hilarious! You should have a show in Vegas!

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    Keep it to yourself, Giovanni

    Quote Originally Posted by xcakid View Post
    I am somewhat of a purist. I will study Shiua Chiao first before I give in to this trend of BJJ. Unless of course its a womens class, then I am all for it.

    Somehow being in kissing proximity of a sweaty guy named Bob and "mounting" him just does not sound like MA to me. More like gay porn. With all the grunting and red faced efforts. No thanks.

    Doesn't sound macho on the streets either. Can you imagine threatening a guy. "I gonna mount you and beat you to a pulp" In some neighborhoods that's a romantic evening for a guy and his life partner.

    I hate to break the news to you, but it sounds like you are a closet ****sexual. That's your business, but if you let fear of your latent deviancy keep you from gaining essential skills you'll have no one to blame but yourself when you get your ass kicked. But maybe you're into that sort of thing, like I said that's your business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    Yeah, I'd rather be taken down by a double leg than a double ankle pick


    Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unkokusai View Post
    I hate to break the news to you, but it sounds like you are a closet ****sexual. That's your business, but if you let fear of your latent deviancy keep you from gaining essential skills you'll have no one to blame but yourself when you get your ass kicked. But maybe you're into that sort of thing, like I said that's your business.
    Rather kicked than penetrated I always say.
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    You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about such things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unkokusai View Post
    You seem to spend a lot of time thinking about such things...
    Ya know I am watching TV right now. Show called Tapout on VS. Theres two guys hugging each other in speedo's. I can't help it. Its all over the place. Sad state of affairs we are in with all these reality TV.
    Master of Shaolin I-Ching Bu Ti, GunGoPow and I Hung Wei Lo styles.

    I am seeking sparring partner. Any level. Looking for blondes or redhead. 5'2" to 5'9". Between 115-135 weight class. Females between 17-30 only need apply. Will extensively work on grappling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unkokusai View Post
    Why is that?
    It hurts less, your head is at less risk, you've got more chance of guarding afterwards....
    "The man who stands for nothing is likely to fall for anything"
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    When is gracie Jujitsu a person??

    Is there a floating halo over people's heads which dictates the style's they have studied and what there experiance is right before a fight??

    Just learn that fighting range, learn grappling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcakid View Post
    Ya know I am watching TV right now. Show called Tapout on VS. Theres two guys hugging each other in speedo's. I can't help it.


    Clearly you can't help what you are, but try to keep it to yourself, ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    It hurts less, your head is at less risk, you've got more chance of guarding afterwards....


    How do you figure?

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