Top MMA stand up strikers who avoid the ground

[Knifefighter]

You guys are missing the point here.

I am looking for guys who are primarily STANDUP fighters, who are good at keeping the fight standing up by avoiding the take down.

I don't really want to discuss BJJ specialists. Yes, I know *Everyone* does BJJ on some level, but I am more interested in guys who specifically avoid the ground, and win standing up.

Watch the IFL. They seem to have several guys who are pretty good at this, especially the blonde kid who looks like he is about 15.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Can you site any online clips of guy who are good in this area?

[bodhitree]

You guys are missing the point here.

I am looking for guys who are primarily STANDUP fighters, who are good at keeping the fight standing up by avoiding the take down.

I don't really want to discuss BJJ specialists. Yes, I know *Everyone* does BJJ on some level, but I am more interested in guys who specifically avoid the ground, and win standing up.

Having a great ground game gives them the confidence to do what they do standing up. When Chuck throws big punches he's opening himself up, but he knows he can wrestle in the clinch and get out of a bad spot on the ground.

Chuck has an NCAA wrestling background (like Cung Le).

These skills are also what gives Crocop the ability to throw his big kicks with little worries, if someone clinches him or takes him down, he can get back to where he is best.

[bodhitree]

Can you site any online clips of guy who are good in this area?

how ****ing lazy are you, look it up yourself.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Blow me you frikn wanna be loser.

[Pork Chop]

No offense, but you are bein pretty lazy....
Mirko, Cung Le, Chuck Liddel, Mo Smith, and Wanderlei Silva are enough names to search on in youtube to give you hours of footage with which to work; but you want us to do your youtube searches for you?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

So I don't have to spend hours, and hours siting through fight after fight, which fights specifically showed successful anti take down skills, with wins using Stand up skills??

[Merryprankster]

Actually RD1, you're the one missing KFs point...

The guys who are the best stand-up fighters, who are usually looking for knockouts and are good at staying on their feet, all have something in common.

They are ALSO at least solid grapplers.

[Pork Chop]

So I don't have to spend hours, and hours siting through fight after fight, which fights specifically showed successful anti take down skills, with wins using Stand up skills??

any ones that say "KO" in the description, and any fight that Crocop wins.

but MerryP's right as always. You don't get those skills in a vacuum. You should train with wrestlers to defend their shot. Not a bad idea to have a good shot yourself. Also a good idea to train with BJJ guys so you don't flip out if you find yourself on your back.

Nothing's worse than those sad kung fu demos of "defending the wrestler's takedown" where the "wrestler" is bent over at the waist and hasn't even changed level on a shot...

The environment these days is not all about bridging, body shots, limited ground work, punches with crazy hand formations, strong stances, and what kung fu traditionally likes to prepare for. You need to be able to defend a wrestler's shot, a judo guy's sei onage, a boxer's 1-2, a muay thai guy's hands & roundkick combo, and a bjj guy's armbar from the guard. However you gotta do all that with folks that actually know what they're doing & not just some kung fu student trying to act the part.

[SenseiShellie]

Liddell and Cro Cop.

Cro Cop may have the best takedown defense in the world.

really? maybe cro cop has grown as a fighter, but every fight i have seen if the fighter wants him on his back, cro cop goes down.

Cro cop trains with one of the top BJJ fighters in the world and is at least a purple, if not brown belt, by now. Silva is a BJJ black belt.

All the wrestlers (Matt Hughes, Mike Van Aresdale, Kevin Randleman, Couture) have extensive ground backgrounds, as ground work plays at a big roll in all wrestling programs.

Karo Parisyan and Fedor both have Sambo backgrounds. Sambo has significant groundwork.

Pretty much all top MMA guys train hard on the ground, in addition to the other areas.

I'm pretty sure Anderson Silva is also a BJJ black belt.

Anderson Silva is a BJJ Black Bet. Karo does Judo. I think Fedor has a really good takedown defense, GSP, and so does BJ Penn, but no one has better takedown than Chuck

[LeeCasebolt]

really?

Not really. Mirko has very good takedown defense for a guy who never wrestled competitively, but "best in the world" is hyperbole at best. You can't compare his defensive wrestling to, say, a Randy Couture or Mark Coleman.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Fact:

Wanna stop the takedown?
Get very ,very good AT DOING the takedown.

Drill, drill and drill and when you have finished, drill some more.

After that, get on your back, get on your side, get on your ass and get comfortable with being there because, chances are, you will end up there sooner or later.

One "secret" that strikers use to stop the shoot?
The train against it SO MUCH and they study their opponent SO MUCH that they can 'read" the shoot.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Wanna stop the takedown?
Get very ,very good AT DOING the takedown.

Reply]
What? How is that going to work?

Stopping a takedown, and a doing take down are two totally different skills. You can't practice a totally unrelated skill, and get good at something else.

[bodhitree]

Wanna stop the takedown?
Get very ,very good AT DOING the takedown.

Reply]
What? How is that going to work?

Stopping a takedown, and a doing take down are two totally different skills. You can't practice a totally unrelated skill, and get good at something else.

when you understand the mechanics of something you will naturally understand countering it more


when you practice takedowns you will drill it cooperatively, but you will also do it with non-compliant partners (i.e. wrestling, judo,etc.) so you will develop both skills




And you call me a wanna be loser

Doesn't gongfu mean hard work?

stop looking for the majic bullet

[sanjuro_ronin]

Wanna stop the takedown?
Get very ,very good AT DOING the takedown.

Reply]
What? How is that going to work?

Stopping a takedown, and a doing take down are two totally different skills. You can't practice a totally unrelated skill, and get good at something else.

What Bodhitree said ( minus the loser comment, I don't know you well enough to insult you )