OT :meet your meat

[golden arhat]

i couldnt watch it all can you ?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VIjanhKqVC4

[fopah]

I betcha alec baldwin eats meat.

[Water Dragon]

Man, that reminds me of my old meat packing days in Chicago. Glad I'm not doing that anymore!

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

theres actually worse videos out there. i think the absolute worst one ive seen is of this asian fur factory where they would skin racoons and such alive. they just beat it in the head until it couldnt fight and then skinned them while they were still completely aware and alert. at one point it zoomed in on one of their little faces after it was skinned and it stirred up just about every negative human emotion one can be capable of.

i used to have a friend that worked at a slaughter house. that sick ****er loved it.
they had a grill on premisis so that you could litterally cut your lunch right off the cow. i never quite understood his enthusiasim for the trade, but god **** he brought home some of the best custs ive ever had.

[SaintSage]

PETA kills animals. PETA funds terrorists.

PETA is a problem.

[David Jamieson]

shock videos to induce vegetarianism is ...well, stupid.

However, although I like the convenience of shopping for ready to cook meat I can appreciate what is done to get it there. I can also appreciate that humans are gonna be humans and you will always find bad ones and some of those bad ones work in abattoirs.

For the most part, animals that we eat as food are killed fairly quickly which amounts to humanely when it comes down to it. This montage does not represent the greater portion in my opinion and is likely a propaganda piece.

[NJM]

shock videos to induce vegetarianism is ...well, stupid.

Or you could buy from a butcher?

[golden arhat]

when it all comes down to it i think its gotta be this
regardless of ppl's whole humans equal better than animals thing (which i dont buy into)

it comes down to this

killing = wrong

now obv there are cases where killing is a necessity like in defense of yourself
or in order to eat in dire circumstances

but

growing vegetables and such is easier than rearing feeding and subjucating entire species for meat


which makes killing for meat completely unneccessary

and killing for personal reasons e.g. u like the taste is plain evil in my opinion
something gave up its life so u can enjoy yourself

i'm sure by any other definition thats just plain selfish and evil ?

who here thinks killing is right ?

in fact
who thinks killing so u can enjoy yourself is right

who thinks its okay to deprive something of a life even before its killed ?

and i suppose technically as the top species on the food chain we can kill anything we want but still when u think about killing regardless of weither its humans or animals doesnt ur heart sink ? dont u feel anything ?

cos personally i dont want to be apart of anything that makes me feel the way i feel when i watch that video or even when i think about war
the holocaust etc
its called compassion i think
so yeah

thoughts ?

comments ?


in fact i think this goes further than just animals i think its more about the right to life and the freedom to live it

[Jow_Ga]

I love meat. I said it. So What? Even though some parts are true, they over dramatasize things! I'm not downin' veggies, but really! That was abuse! Not a real natural farm!

[fopah]

animals eat animals... so why can't we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnEtiDYR6a4

that doesnt look quick and painless.

[GunnedDownAtrocity]

protein makes me big. aminals contain lots of protein. therefore there are aminals in my tummy.

[FuXnDajenariht]

shock videos to induce vegetarianism is ...well, stupid.
.

i think shock was exactly the point and unavoidable due to its very nature. what makes it stupid to bring awareness to animal cruelty on that kind of level?

as much as the radical PETA devotees, and the animals before humans mentality some of them extol annoys me im seriously reconsidering my dietary choices. theres enough human suffering going on to be concerned about, but i can't help judging that as one of the most disturbing things i ever saw on the web.....

[golden arhat]

protein makes me big. aminals contain lots of protein. therefore there are aminals in my tummy.

how can you be this selfish ?

[golden arhat]

animals eat animals... so why can't we?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnEtiDYR6a4

that doesnt look quick and painless.

plenty of reasons

1 a lion doesnt take an entire speciies and lock them up so that they never have a life
nor will their children
it eats because it has to it doesnt have the capacity to farm and to survive it must kill

when u are hungry do you think
"i want to eat" ?
or do you think "i want to tear an animal limb from limb so i can feast on the bloody raw goodiness and feal the adrenaline rush through my veins" as a lion most probably does ?

[golden arhat]

I love meat. I said it. So What? Even though some parts are true, they over dramatasize things! I'm not downin' veggies, but really! That was abuse! Not a real natural farm!

its not the point

dont you think killing for your own pleasure is wrong when there are more nutritious cheaper and easier solutions to hunger ?

and actually ive talked to ppl that work at places like these

cows are dehorned without anaesthetic
pigs are castrated and have their tales pulled off without it
most battery chickens live in those conditions
and animals are farmed to such an extent that they are deprived a life even before they are slaughtered

no fields
no grass
no mothers milk
no affection
only a barn locked behind steel restraints eating constantly
for a year or so where there short miserable life comes to an end

the ways in which they r killed varies

and as for ppl who say its humane

well basically who thinks its humane to kill like this ? we have the minds to know that nutrition can be found and consumed in a much more efficient way without anyone getting hurt

we could choose not to do this but we dont because we are selfish