I don't get why they'd use movie stills on that rotating banner. It doesn't flow that well with the other pictures, but at least there's only 2 stills.
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I don't get why they'd use movie stills on that rotating banner. It doesn't flow that well with the other pictures, but at least there's only 2 stills.
choppin dat pork
they don't?Originally Posted by TenTigers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj-fbabMoDk
a lil bjj can take your kung fu a long way
-Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship FightingWhat would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
Troll Slayer
take out the school in the background, and what would make this guy distinctly "CMA" as opposed to every other MMA person on the planet? He's doing conditioning, pad work, wrestling, BJJ.
According to a TON of people on here, he isn't fighting with his kung fu, is he?
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Ninja Vanish!!
If you are not in a horse stance, using phoneix eye, and wearing shiny pajamas, it is not really Kung Fu. I cannot believe all the silly people advocating pad work, hard sparring, conditioning, and wrestling. These are not the elements of Kung Fu. And what is all this hype about BJJ. People who are always on their backs, pfff,
you guys have guard, we have lotus position, you make the choice.
"The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". -Cus D'Amato
choppin dat pork
i dunno, i wouldn't say his hand combinations or his shadow are exactly typical of boxing- nor his pad work. Footworks pretty flat footed from what I saw.
He doesn't put enough of his hips in his kicks to really be stereotypical thai.
bak mei and dragon are short hand arts anyway, so i don't think the transition to gloves looks as drastic for them.
i mean, i know where you're coming from and i guess i can see both sides.
i also still remember the info you gave out on gate theory in your san da, so I consider you part of that movement as well.
learning how to use your stuff will having you doing certain things boxing, muay thai, and mma guys do. on the other hand, it should have its own flavor. i can honestly say at some of the schools i trained at that there was no indigenous flavor, it was all american kickboxing, watered down for continuous rules.
knowing boxing and muay thai, i can see how that guy's stuff (and your's) is slightly different. i enjoy seeing that flavor, but i'm not expecting to see some shaw brothers stuff; with someone attacking the other guy's feet or adopting pointless poses.
one of the reasons i love that dave lacey set of youtube clips so much is you've got these lin wan charp (think sitting on a jab to the body), sow choy - front kick, and roundhouse kick - sow choy combos that show up in the forms, in the apps, on the bag work, and (lo-and-behold) they show up in the fighting.
I think if a boxer sits back and says "that's just flailing" then you're doing something right.
-Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship FightingWhat would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
Troll Slayer
his pad work (in the clip) was cross/hook/cross, very typical power boxing
yeah, his footwork was flat, I'd actually say it is something he needs to work on
again, see above, if he were my fighter, we'd be working on getting his power into his kicks
I know you do
you do realize there are TONS of people on here who would (and are) disagree (ing)
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Bad the Fukc Ass
IMO these are exactly the people that should stay out of it.
i come from the vantage point that in martial arts there is one ultimate goal.
to be able to drop an opponent.
anything that can lend you more power to do that is NOT something you should turn your back on.
to me, cma guys that are taking a modern approach to things, mixing it up, adding material that works from external sources....well these guys are the real 'kungfu guys'
these are the guys that live the essence of kungfu.
if you went to shaolin 700 years ago (or any real fighters) or when ever, and you showed them some BJJ and tapped several of the monks out, do you think they would turn you away? tell you your material wasnt good enough for kungfu? or would we be seeing shaolin monks rolling today?
Troll Slayer
blasphemy!
you will now be promptly ignored by Fu Pow
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Bad the Fukc Ass
roflblasphemy!
you will now be promptly ignored by Fu Pow
what ever 'kungfu guy'
choppin dat pork
yeah, but his cross is UGLY weird. lol
combo i was originally talking about was 6:03, double hook - cross - uppercut.
Watching it again, he was much better at putting his hip into his round kicks during the actual fights.
One of the combos he went to the well with in those fights was low round house - hook - straight, which i've only seen in san shou, not in any thai gyms.
that punching he does from like 4:50 to 5 doesn't look boxing to me- maybe mma. thought it was pretty consistent with bak mei's theory of overwhelming.
hahah at 5:13 he does gwa-sow-charp haha nice
few seconds before that, he follows up spinning backfist with a straight- another thing i don't see in a lot of thai gyms.
Not sure I've ever thrown a knee in a combo in thai without initiating a clinch beforehand either, so that's something a little "atypical".
two guys sparring during the padwork of 6:55 are definitely doin kung fu with that hook-backfist combo. then again, i'm not one of those guys who thinks non-spinning backfists and hammer fists are useless. pankration back in the day loved the hammerfist and if backfists were totally useless in boxing they wouldn't get you a warning or a possible dq. it was more of a padding coverage issue than anything else.
i know it's not like any of the rest of these things really breaks any rules in the other sports, you just don't see it that often. I like the added flavor.
-Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship FightingWhat would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
choppin dat pork
some more food for thought
I kinda like this guy's training mentality.
i would argue that his forms practice actually helps his balance & posture- i mean look at him when he secures mount, he actually transitions into some horse stance looking thing to maintain position:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhT7C2TlVs8
also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBC_AHWujys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpJfIIuZ-uE
http://www.youtube.com/user/drunkenunicorn
-Jack Dempsey ch1 pg1 Championship FightingWhat would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
Camel Tao
For me, the techniques that are representative of my fighting style are considered illegal. Low sweeps (both legs), elbows, throws; knees to a downed opponent.
Without ME its just AWESO
those are all "legal" moves in an mma fight.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Nice quote at the end...
Glorified TCMAist
so you're saying, you only have those four techniques? Take them out and you have nothing?
C'MON!
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