Ten Tigers of Canton - Who are they and what did they do?

[South Paw]

South Paw: flying weight (although our single chain whip also comes from Wong Feihung)

Flying weight = Rope weight?
Flying dart = Rope dart?
Flying Goose = Wong Fei Hung?

[TenTigers]

Flying weight = Rope weight?
Flying dart = Rope dart?
Flying Goose = Wong Fei Hung?

out of curiosity, could the flying goose be a hidden Hung Mun reference, as goose is also used in Hung Sing and I believe has hidden patriotic meanings.
HSK might be able to shed some light on this.

(yeah, it's an old thread. The threads here have gotten boring)

[taai gihk yahn]

(yeah, it's an old thread. The threads here have gotten boring)

Ten Tigers: Necromancer King of Canton!

[sanjuro_ronin]

Flying Goose = Wong Fei Hung?

Reading that makes me think that WFH used to beat people with a goose !
The sheer awesomeness of such an act defies words !!

[Scott R. Brown]

Reading that makes me think that WFH used to beat people with a goose !
The sheer awesomeness of such an act defies words !!

No, No, No....you are close, but you've got it all wrong!

WFH went around "goosing" people, NOT hitting them with a goose! He was a noted practical joker!

[sanjuro_ronin]

No, No, No....you are close, but you've got it all wrong!

WFH went around "goosing" people, NOT hitting them with a goose! He was a noted practical joker!

Sorry dude, that isn't as cool, but it does explain the yee gee kim yueng ma stance, LOL !

[David Jamieson]

so, quick review. The ten tigers and their styles were:

1) Wong Yan-lam - Lama Pai
2) Wong Ching-ho - 9 dragon fist
3) Sou Hak-fu - Iron Palm (created black tiger style too)
4) Wong Kei-ying - Hung Kuen
5) Lai Yan-chiu - seven star
6) So Chan - drunken style
7) Leung Kwan - Iron wire
8) Chan Cheung-tai -eagle claw
9) Tam Chai-kwan - Crane
10) Chow Tai - Baguazhang

Disputes?

There are apparently 3 sets of 5 elders as well.

set one: (the kung fu five elders)

1) Ji Sin Sim Si = abbot of southern shaolin
2) Ng Mui Dai Si = nun creator of wing chun
3) Bak Mei Dou Yan = traitorous taoist monk who burned down shaolin
4) Fung Dou Dak = a taosit sage and kung fu master
5) Miu Hin = a shaolin lay disciple


set two: (the shaolin survivor 5 elders- the original hung mun "Fan Ching Fuk Ming" - "Overthrow the Ching, Restore the Ming")

1) Choi Tak-Chung
2) Fong Tai-Hung
3) Ma Chiu-Hing
4) Wu Tak-Tai
5) Lee Sik-Hoi

set three: (the five family elders)

1) Hung Hei Gun
2) Lau Sam Ngan
3) Choy Gau Yi
4) Li Yau San
5) Mok Ching Giu


Set three is likely most familiar to all us southern style kung fu guys.

1=patriarch of Hung Gar according to legend
2=patriarch of Lau Gar
3-patriarch of Choy Li Fut
4= Patriarch of Choy li Fut
5= Patriarch of Mok Gar

Ok, disputes?

still bored?

[sanjuro_ronin]

That's awesome, pointless and unverifiable, but awesome.

[TenTigers]

Tam Jai Gwun, or Three Legged Tam was known for kicking techniques. Supposedly giving us the Mo Ying Geuk, Fu Mei Geuk, and either Lung Mei Geuk, or Dink Geuk.
Where did you hear Chow Tai doing bagua? One of the reasons I was checking out this thread was my curiosity of the Bagua/Hung-Ga connection. There is a movement that repeats in every pillar form, which is exactly like single palm change (Wild goose (there it is again-goose!) leaves the flock (what the flock?)
I know Bagua is a Northern system, but Lion's Roar isn't wholy Southern either.
Anyway, if Chow Tai indeed practiced BaGua, it would make sense. If he was a purely fictional character...well, I will continue the myth...Hey, if Wing Chun guys can tell their Ng Mui story....

[CLFNole]

Chow Tai was known for his "Soul Chasing Staff" never heard of the baat gwa. A descedent of his has posted on one of the forums and he had learned buk sing CLF so don't know if Chow Tai had connections with Tam Sam or not.

Also I believe So Chan (So Haat Yee) was also hung kuen just he got drunk a lot and was made famous by Yuen Siu Tien in many drunken movies.

[mig]

they say Wong Fei-Hung was well known for his use of the flying thallium. It might be a misprint.Perhaps he was well known for flying on valium.

All right don't forget that was the time of Opium and even the Iron man died of overdose as the legend goes. Who knows what kind of illusions one has when you are doped.

Mig

[mooyingmantis]

Where did you hear Chow Tai doing bagua? One of the reasons I was checking out this thread was my curiosity of the Bagua/Hung-Ga connection. There is a movement that repeats in every pillar form, which is exactly like single palm change (Wild goose (there it is again-goose!) leaves the flock (what the flock?)

Wild Goose Leaves the Flock is also the name of a movement used in a few Northern Praying Mantis forms. I think it is probably a generic Chinese quan pu element.

[David Jamieson]

we can't forget: dayan qigong

(wild goose)

[David Jamieson]

That's awesome, pointless and unverifiable, but awesome.

Thank you. My next song is about subtraction.

Take it away...

[ShaolinDan]

I don't know any goose name techniques, but
I took a class on Chinese poetry once and I know that the lone goose (i.e. that 'left the flock') was a common image in poems of loneliness/alienation/banishment. Which were a common theme too. Very romantic.