Literati Tradition: Neidan Meditation

[Doc Stier]

In many types of "iron" training, such as Iron Palm, they speak of and recommend "semen retention" for the build up of chi, but from what I hear, urologists and such have issues with that.

I think the main health concerns are mostly in regard to techniques which strive to prevent the normal ejaculation of semen during sexual climax and orgasm by forcibly attempting to retain it at that time with specific methods of muscle contraction and mental visualization. This is oftentimes much like trying to prevent urination when the urinary bladder is completely full, and the immediate need to empty the bladder is URGENT, or like trying to retain a bowel movement that demands to be evacuated IMMEDIATELY!

Thus, if semen retention techniques are practiced too often or too strenuously, there is likely to be some harmful effect or outright injury to the prostate gland and urethra, and perhaps other associated organs, as a result. But here again, it is primarily the overzealous and overstrenuous use of such methods which causes harm, not usually a more normal and moderate practice of these techniques.

Doc

[sanjuro_ronin]

I think the main health concerns are mostly in regard to techniques which strive to prevent the normal ejaculation of semen during sexual climax and orgasm by forcibly attempting to retain it at that time with specific methods of muscle contraction and mental visualization. This is oftentimes much like trying to prevent urination when the urinary bladder is completely full, and the immediate need to empty the bladder is urgent, or like trying to retain a bowel movement that demands to be evacuated IMMEDIATELY! As such, if semen retention techniques are practiced too often or too strenuously, there is likely to be some harmful effect or outright injury to the prostate gland and urethra, and perhaps other associated organs, as a result. But here again, it is primarily the overzealous and overstrenuous use of such methods which causes harm, not usually a more normal and moderate practice of these techniques.

Doc

Ah, thought so, I recall reading where, depending on ones age, there is a certain amount of time between climaxing, I think ( for example) in one's 30's that one should go 14 days between climaxes ( not no sex mind you, just no happy endings for the male ).
This had to do with the bodies ability to "replenish" the spent jing.

[Doc Stier]

Quite so! The game can still be alot of fun to play, even if you don't hit a home-run every time at bat!

Doc

[tai chi hermit]

so does anyone have a site w/ info on bringing food into the mountains or making while there or anything of this sort.

thanks

[Doc Stier]

hermit:

Check these sites out for great info on subsistence living skills, and opportunities to participate in some awesome on-site learning programs, whether short-term weekend workshops or year-round living and learning experiences:

http://www.hopspress.com/Books/Revie...ticipating.htm

http://www.earthways.net/

http://www.1stalaskaoutdoorschool.com/index.htm

http://www.primitive.org/

http://www.dacres.org/Opportunities.htm

http://www.jackmtn.com/skills.html

http://www.primitive.org/nothing.htm

Doc