Kajukenbo Hop Gar

[diego]

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/

Hello yall, here's some pictures of techniques from my stepdad's deceased teacher Alexander "Kaido" Polintain. These are from an article he did with Grandmaster David Chin back in 1975. I hope you like these...I notice there are some typo's in the actual article

[BruceSteveRoy]

thats some pretty cool stuff thanks for the post.

[diego]

thats some pretty cool stuff thanks for the post.

thanks man I'm working on a tribute site to Kaido, so stay tuned...I got like twenty minutes of footage, then I'm gonna film me doing his basics with some application...should be sweet.

[jdhowland]

Hi, Diego.

Did you ever find the other magazine article you were looking for?

This one has always puzzled me because I practice Ng Yim Ming Hop Ga and I could never tell where this kind of movement came from. The poses are right, but the transitions seem awkward. Probably just a matter of poor editing by the magazine staff. Was this before he met Dacascos?

Be well.
John

[diego]

Hi, Diego.

Did you ever find the other magazine article you were looking for?

This one has always puzzled me because I practice Ng Yim Ming Hop Ga and I could never tell where this kind of movement came from. The poses are right, but the transitions seem awkward. Probably just a matter of poor editing by the magazine staff. Was this before he met Dacascos?

Be well.
John

This is the only history of Kaido I have...and it's in french...I haven't done french since elementary school Have you heard of a W.C. Wong out of San Francisco?.

"Voyons maintenant les antecedents de Kaido. Celui-ci est ne le juillet 1948 aux Philippines. A 13 ans il commence son entrainment, a 20 ans il s'etait deja entraine avec les meilleurs instructeurs sur deux continents.
Bein que le KaJuKenBo soit sa specialite, il a egalement etudie le "White Crane Kung Fu" avec le maitre Harry Ng. Ming et les techniques de la "mante religieuse" (kung fu) avec Sifu W.C. Wong a San Francisco. Tout en etant un adepte du "style lent" chinois, Kaido etudia egalement le karate burokukai sous la direction de Richard Kim de San Francisco et le Shorin Ryu avec Latino Gonzalez aux Philippines. C'est du professeur Adriano qu'il recut les enseignements du KajuKenbo en Hawaii."

Kaido receiving 5'th dan in KajuKenbo from Emperado in the mid 70's I beleive.

http://www.geocities.com/tibetankung..._emperado.html

[diego]

This is the only history of Kaido I have...and it's in french...I haven't done french since elementary school Have you heard of a W.C. Wong out of San Francisco?.

"Voyons maintenant les antecedents de Kaido. Celui-ci est ne le juillet 1948 aux Philippines. A 13 ans il commence son entrainment, a 20 ans il s'etait deja entraine avec les meilleurs instructeurs sur deux continents.
Bein que le KaJuKenBo soit sa specialite, il a egalement etudie le "White Crane Kung Fu" avec le maitre Harry Ng. Ming et les techniques de la "mante religieuse" (kung fu) avec Sifu W.C. Wong a San Francisco. Tout en etant un adepte du "style lent" chinois, Kaido etudia egalement le karate burokukai sous la direction de Richard Kim de San Francisco et le Shorin Ryu avec Latino Gonzalez aux Philippines. C'est du professeur Adriano qu'il recut les enseignements du KajuKenbo en Hawaii."

Kaido receiving 5'th dan in KajuKenbo from Emperado in the mid 70's I beleive.

http://www.geocities.com/tibetankung..._emperado.html

Steeeve, would you do me a huge favor and translate this into proper English?...Babelfish translator always give me a headache with their translations

[diego]

This is the only history of Kaido I have...and it's in french...I haven't done french since elementary school Have you heard of a W.C. Wong out of San Francisco?.

"Voyons maintenant les antecedents de Kaido. Celui-ci est ne le juillet 1948 aux Philippines. A 13 ans il commence son entrainment, a 20 ans il s'etait deja entraine avec les meilleurs instructeurs sur deux continents.
Bein que le KaJuKenBo soit sa specialite, il a egalement etudie le "White Crane Kung Fu" avec le maitre Harry Ng. Ming et les techniques de la "mante religieuse" (kung fu) avec Sifu W.C. Wong a San Francisco. Tout en etant un adepte du "style lent" chinois, Kaido etudia egalement le karate burokukai sous la direction de Richard Kim de San Francisco et le Shorin Ryu avec Latino Gonzalez aux Philippines. C'est du professeur Adriano qu'il recut les enseignements du KajuKenbo en Hawaii."

Kaido receiving 5'th dan in KajuKenbo from Emperado in the mid 70's I beleive.

http://www.geocities.com/tibetankung..._emperado.html

i never got this translated yet but....this is from a magazine titled Karate Kebec i'll scan it soon.

it says praying mantis from wc wong...wc wong is the hung gar guy but i'm wondering could it be T.Y. Wong?

i saw this pic before and it looks like something kaido would do in his dragon dance...buddy taught in san francisco...http://kinmon.org/index.html

[diego]

Hi, Diego.

Did you ever find the other magazine article you were looking for?

This one has always puzzled me because I practice Ng Yim Ming Hop Ga and I could never tell where this kind of movement came from. The poses are right, but the transitions seem awkward. Probably just a matter of poor editing by the magazine staff. Was this before he met Dacascos?

Be well.
John

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ign.com/Kaido/

right leg weighted crane stance, left twist step and right side heel kick to his knee...Kaido uses lots of twist stance when he kicks like how the Thai's do.

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ato%20005.html

here his right leg drops back for cross stance, then pivot on right heel and unwind counterclockwise into left twist stance. Right steal step into right cross stance and backfist, and pivot on right heel again and unwind counterclockwise into left bow stance and right upper cut to gut level or right overhead to temple.

here Kaido is being stylistic...after the kick he poses and then unwinds...I was never taught to strike go ongaurd and then follow up lol.

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ato%20006.html

here he shuffle steps...right foot steps off line from the attack and left foot plants and right arm hits...all one motion it's a shuffle step, not a walking step.

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ato%20007.html

here you shuffle forward and upcut to gut and then shuffle in and around and upcut groin....kaido will move in to your center and evade you at the same time, it's all angular rotations.

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ato%20008.html
again with the shuffle step...right foot steps and left foot centers.

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ato%20009.html

shuffle to the side, right foot steps and left follows and left block...shuffle in and claw, shuffle out and upcut to gut...shuffle around and right overhead to left temple.

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ato%20010.html

this is straight up typo...how he go from one leg stance into left crane when the wall is in his way lol

http://www.hygeia-design.com/Kaido/s...ides/Kato.html

again this has to be typo....shuffle in and jam him with right crown gaurd and left upcut to gut...if it isn't a typo i'm guessing his weight drops back onto his left leg and he lunges into right bow and claw eyes...how did he trap the forearms lol? must be a typo, or it's very stylistic and I haven't seen him do it, and I've seen most of his application...

This article is from 1975 and the picture with Emperado is from around the same time. Kaido was 5'th dan KajuKenbo, so he prolly knew Dacasco by then!?

[diego]

Hi, Diego.

Did you ever find the other magazine article you were looking for?

This one has always puzzled me because I practice Ng Yim Ming Hop Ga and I could never tell where this kind of movement came from. The poses are right, but the transitions seem awkward. Probably just a matter of poor editing by the magazine staff. Was this before he met Dacascos?

Be well.
John

yeah, i'm watching wun hop kuen do on you tube and it looks nothing like kaido except for the tornado kicks...kaido slaps his right claw-palm into the heel of the right foot when doing the inside crescent kick portion of the tornado kick, while others will slap the top of their foot with their other hand...kaido basically jumps up and grabs his foot with the same hand. WHKD seems more kajukenbo-lohan and kaido is more kajukenbo-bagua.

[diego]

mm, also my stepdad told me kaido came to class one day and said they are not using the kajukenbo crest anymore and kaido got some new crests made up which had a white crane on them...

it's interesting no one talks about kaido in the kajukenbo-kung fu world cuz his form is better than emperado i can honestly say that as a kung fu fan...why is their no tribute sites?

my stepdad told me montreal was a pretty shady place in the 70's, and i read about the montreal hells angels killing judges etc...kaido suppossedly taught satans choice and they funded his first school before they got locked up and he got new students...he told Philip Gelinas he is retiring in 1980 and was killed a few years late...the **** would make a good novel, i'm guessing he left someone unhappy!? but his style sure looks good!.

[diego]

upping ttt

[diego]

"Ng Yim-Ming--Grandmaster Ng Yim-Ming began his training under Gum San-Hong who was a martial actor from the Red Boat Opera Company. Gum San-Hong was Wong Hen-Wing's student. This is where Ng Yim-Ming got the opportunity to begin training with the giant of Canton. He was a teenage boy of 13 at the time and took to the training diligently as he already had experience from Gum San-Hong. Wong Hen-Wing being the number one disciple of Wong Yan-Lum was very close to the Grandmaster. He gave the young Ng the assignment of bringing Grandmaster Wong various types of Bao (chinese buns). This would be the opportunity that led Wong Yan-Lum to teach Ng Yim-Ming the Hop Gar kung fu directly. Even though Wong Yan-Lum was of poor health at the time he took a liking to Ng and gave Ng many important lessons. One of the ways Ng had to develop his Chuan Fa was to go into the streets and fight. He was very successful and took his hop gar to a high level even at such a young age. As Ng grew older his family connections with Chang Kai-Sek would take him to the USA to be trained as a fighter pilot. Later Ng would become a General in the Air Force."

http://www.geocities.com/tibetanhopgar1/hopgar2.html

I was told kaido's father helped Ng Ming come to America...I also heard kaido may have killed some one in the army... what's the Chang kai-Sek connection?

[diego]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmL5eUySNZM


Kaido's main black belt GM Philip Gelinas teaching Kaido's fourth form called Dragon Dance. I'm told you didn't learn this form until around the third or fourth year after doing basic Kajukenbo kick boxing conditioning with Crane punches..