Iron shirt Qi Gong

[_William_]

How does Iron Shirt protect nerve clusters like the solar plexus?

[David Jamieson]

_william_

a. by wrapping

and

b. by bringing the water body to the fore

and

c. by conditioning to respond

peace

[_William_]

Pardon? I don't quite understand that. Could you please elaborate on those points?

Thanks.

[David Jamieson]

sorry _william_, you'll have to try it.

try starting with this http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/prat102.html

peace

[Andy]

Has anyone done a comparison of Iron shirt training methods? There are a lot of seminars, books, and video's out there and it seems as though the arts that do train it, all train it a little differently. What common principles have you found?

[WanderingMonk]

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...threadid=32670

[Andy]

Thanks for passing that thread on to me. Most of the methods I found listed there are what I refer to as "breathe and squeeze" methods. Do you have any idea what's going on physiologically with them?

Andy

[WanderingMonk]

Andy,

I don't know but if I have to speculate, I say it is like an inflated ball. It prevent the internal cavity from suffering direct impact trauma. The old criticism for this type of iron body: it is like having a hard casing but delicate glassware inside the [treasure] chest. if you shakes it a lot, the glassware still gets destroy.

wm

[woodendumby]

Can anyone comment on any Practical effects of this practice as it relates to fighting ?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

When punches cause Booo, Boos on other people, they will not cause them on you.

[jet64]

Can anyone comment on any Practical effects of this practice as it relates to fighting ?

this training is on relax mode, the body can get used to pounding, so it can absorb punches or kicks.

its training comes with herbal medicine.

[TenTigers]

studies made by insurance companies(not sure how this is done-but this is what I read once) indicate that people who were invoved in contact sports, such as Martial Arts, Football, Rugby, Hockey, etc., had much better survival rates in auto collisions due to the strengthening of the fascia and support of the internal organs. Many deaths were caused by massive trauma. Sort of like shaken baby syndrome. The impact training, pressurizing and breathing exercises,are said to strengthen the internal organs in just such a way. In TCMA, beating, and impact massage is said to stimulate the organs, remove stagnation, as well as breathing methods to tonify and strengthen the immune system. The lymphatic system as well as cerebal spinal fluid is pumped through movement. Iron Body combines all of this in a series of exercises and postures. The pressure testing is probably the most recognized aspect of this training, and probably the most exagerrated as well.
I would be interested in what Chris Jurak has to say on this topic, as well as Steve Lamande.

[Oso]

nice concise definition TT.

[sanjuro_ronin]

studies made by insurance companies(not sure how this is done-but this is what I read once) indicate that people who were invoved in contact sports, such as Martial Arts, Football, Rugby, Hockey, etc., had much better survival rates in auto collisions due to the strengthening of the fascia and support of the internal organs. Many deaths were caused by massive trauma. Sort of like shaken baby syndrome. The impact training, pressurizing and breathing exercises,are said to strengthen the internal organs in just such a way. In TCMA, beating, and impact massage is said to stimulate the organs, remove stagnation, as well as breathing methods to tonify and strengthen the immune system. The lymphatic system as well as cerebal spinal fluid is pumped through movement. Iron Body combines all of this in a series of exercises and postures. The pressure testing is probably the most recognized aspect of this training, and probably the most exagerrated as well.
I would be interested in what Chris Jurak has to say on this topic, as well as Steve Lamande.

The correct, I would add the "fight specific" impact conditioning is a must.

[MASTERforge]

Iron Shirt is similar to iron palm except that its designed so you can take a pounding on the torso and not go down. Without some form of conditioning, this is a soft spot that could make the decision in a fight. Sit-ups are normally enough conditioning but if you want to go that bit extra go for Iron Shirt Training.

With Iron Palm we train our hands to be strong so when they hit targets they don't break our hands. The energy is transferred into the target not back into the hand. Your hands feel like Iron hammers and are much more effective in a fight. I find finger press-up really help with this.

I understand that Iron shirt training includes relaxed muscle conditioning. i am a bit cautious about this as I wonder what it does internally?