Illegal Fight Clubs

[Anthony_ATT]

You know that, since its not sanctioned and there are no video clips, this never happened.

Hrmmmm... I guess I better start deleting.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Hrmmmm... I guess I better start deleting.

* waves hands in the air*

You didn't see anything...

[1bad65]

Smoker matches happen everywhere across the country.

True, and not just in MMA. In Teddy Atlas' book he talks about a young Mike Tyson doing them before he started his amateur career.

[sanjuro_ronin]

True, and not just in MMA. In Teddy Atlas' book he talks about a young Mike Tyson doing them before he started his amateur career.

Unsanctioned matches at the semi-pro level ate not that uncommon for many reasons, from not passing the physical for "licensing" to waiting on your "fighters passport", to making some quick cash.

[Royal Dragon]

The bikers used to hold illegal full contact fight matches on the rooftop parking lot of Harlem Irving Plaza years ago. I never went to one, but I knew a girl who had fighters from them at her parties.

This was back in 1995 or so, before the UFC was big. No one there was from Martial arts clubs. I think it was friendly biker clubs getting together and brawling for prize money. It gave them something to do, and kept thier brawling skills at thier peak.

[Fox]

True, and not just in MMA. In Teddy Atlas' book he talks about a young Mike Tyson doing them before he started his amateur career.

More then likely why some refer them to be called Backwater Matches, No vids.
Understand now.

[1bad65]

More then likely why some refer them to be called Backwater Matches, No vids.
Understand now.

No, not the same at all. The smokers are not illegal, the gym holding them invites the trainers from the gyms he wants there. Atlas had problems at first because they felt he was lying about Tyson's real age. Tyson was VERY large for his age. The trainers and the guy holding them matchup the guys by age, experience, weight, etc. They are not free-for-alls. The smokers are often taped, it's a good chance for trainers to see how their fighters perform in an actual fight in front of a crowd. These 'backwater' fights are as real as the Kumite. BS stories told by a liar.

Read Atlas' book. It's titled Atlas - From the Street to the Ring: A Son's Struggle to Become a Man. He talks of the smokers in there.

[FungFu2u2]

No, not the same at all. The smokers are not illegal, the gym holding them invites the trainers from the gyms he wants there. Atlas had problems at first because they felt he was lying about Tyson's real age. Tyson was VERY large for his age. The trainers and the guy holding them matchup the guys by age, experience, weight, etc. They are not free-for-alls. The smokers are often taped, it's a good chance for trainers to see how their fighters perform in an actual fight in front of a crowd. These 'backwater' fights are as real as the Kumite. BS stories told by a liar.

Read Atlas' book. It's titled Atlas - From the Street to the Ring: A Son's Struggle to Become a Man. He talks of the smokers in there.

Ahh.but underground fights are real, Whare are you getting your info on illegal undeground fight? They happen,anyone wanting to fight for some quick cash, That is why no vids. You need to talk to to some ond school fighters, not rely on just books alone. They are more like pitbull fight or **** fighting..illegall so no vids

[Drake]

Hey, I'm a publisher. I make my living on the newsstands with a niche magazine. If sensationalizing is the only way I can keep this mag and site going, it's a necessary evil. Remember, I brought you the iron crotch (as if anyone here could ever forget). That was good for a couple of years of sensationalism - it paid for lots of other less popular things.

Truth be told, I'm hoping to start a new thread about illegal fights here. I suspect that, just like the MMA & Steroids thread, we'll be seeing more of these. I'm just finding a tidy place to put them.

Gene: 1
Everyone Else: 0

Talk about brutal honesty... I love it!

[Anthony_ATT]

More then likely why some refer them to be called Backwater Matches, No vids.
Understand now.

I guess I would clean up at these backwater matches.

[1bad65]

Underground fights happen. Just no way like Hollywood or these 'underground champs' would have you believe. You go ahead and believe guys like Frank Dux and Rudy Abel, I'll believe guys like Teddy Atlas.

And I disagreed with Mr Fox saying that smokers were just like these 'Backwater fights', just with a different name. They are not same by any stretch of the imagination.

[1bad65]

I guess I would clean up at these backwater matches.

Of course you would. You already beat the Ultimate Underground Backwater No-Video Fighting Champion!

[Fox]

I guess I would clean up at these backwater matches.

LOL, maybe if you were taking the bets and not fighting you might clean up.

[Fox]

Underground fights happen. Just no way like Hollywood or these 'underground champs' would have you believe. You go ahead and believe guys like Frank Dux and Rudy Abel, I'll believe guys like Teddy Atlas.

And I disagreed with Mr Fox saying that smokers were just like these 'Backwater fights', just with a different name. They are not same by any stretch of the imagination.

Did I say I believed in Frank Dux..NO Did I mention Rudy..no It could just his choice of words,calling it a Backwater match. Just as illelgal as I said about pitbull fighting or c.o.c.k fighting. You have a bad habit of bring up Rudy alot, when none says anything about him. I can call them Backwater matches as well. I never said it was like Hollywood either did I?

[David Jamieson]

Or on Indian land like they do up here, or should I say DID, past tense, these things don't happen here anymore, oh no and the HA are NOT behind them at all, nope.
Go on with your lives people, nothing to see here.

yes it does so happen...just not in Ontario. lol That's because dalton and his girls are the biggest puss's in the universe. (same guy who wanted to tax fast food because his own kid was getting fat, talk about out of touch and the ponce still get elected! anyway....)

You gotta go to Alberta to fight casino style..or montreal to get pwned in a crappy decision by a blind francophone ref. hahaha.