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    Quote Originally Posted by chasincharpchui View Post
    to lamapai and others that use so choy instead of sau choy:

    i merely asked a simple question to wat dialect 'so' was meant to be in
    i was taught sau and not so. lkfmdc had to be the smart ass and ask if i had something uself to contribute, and the rest y' all can read urself

    i will continue to critisize techniques regardless if its welcomed or not. if u dont wanna be critisized dont post on the net.

    lkfmdc, im no master but u obviously are, a master of the chinese and english language, aand foremost a grandmaster of joking ur way out of every situation.

    id hate to be somone that pays u hard earned cash to only learn to say 'knock knock' jokes or roll their eyes wen an aggresive person fronts them on the street.

    thank god my master doesnt take my hard earned money and sell me lies.

    I didn't say I had a problem with you. As far as I knew, you asked about the dialect/use of a word. I don't think it's an issue to really debate. We call it the sweeping fist. It makes sense to me.

    If you want to call it something else, that's okay too.

    Sweeping fist, sweeping kick, same character to me, same motion. Yes, the fist technique can come from different angles and use different hand positions. It's still the same motion as the sweeping kick, regardless of what plane it's on.

    That is how I see is. The character debate is really out of my league, as I can only read about 100+ characters.

    Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    sorry bra, but when you are mentioning Lau Bun's lineage, GM Salvatera is the head master of Lau Bun's lineage. Wong Doc Fai is more Chan Family CLF.
    I know who your Sifu is, I didn't mean dissrespect. My correction should have been Lau Bun lineage (Hung Sing, USA).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFT View Post
    lkfmdc cleared this up a while back. Clear Cloud and Green Cloud are one and the same. Sifu Parrella and his sihingdai had been using the translation "Green Cloud" based on oral transmission from CTS sifu. They only recently found out that the "ching"/"qing" character they had assumed was "green" was actually "clear" - they sound the same in Cantonese (and Mandarin I think).

    Clear:
    Green:

    I think this is just a case of incomplete revision of his website.
    Sorry to nitpick again, but if it is meant to be "Clear Cloud", then a sun radical is used, they are not one and the same:

    Clear
    Clean or Clear off:
    Green or Azure:

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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    The Choy Lee Fut represented in the United states is as follows..........

    Jeong Yim's Fut San lineage.......

    Gm Salvatera: Head Master of Yuen Hai/Lau Bun's lineage

    Paul Chu of the Chui Kwong Yuen Hung Sing lineage is in texas.

    New York Hung Sing (Jeh Wing Bun lineage)


    Chan Family CLF is represented by:

    GM Doc Fai Wong, Chan Yong Fa, and the Ngan Yiu Ting lineage


    Buk Sing's main representatives in America are:

    Both Dave and Vince Lacey, Lai Hung.


    and we cannot forget the Late Great Lee Koon Hung .........RIP.

    So we have at least 9 Main CLF representatives in America.

    Then you have the other schools who have a little Choy Lee Fut, picked up a few moves, or a few forms here and there.
    I was kind of referring to lines rather than school's per se.

    My point is, that most of the stuff we see today, comes from only a few lines. It's not like we say 30 different versions/families of CLF. That's all.

    Our scope is limited to the interpretation of these families alone. I am saying that there are other groups besides these. Go into Guangdong and you'll see a bunch of different clf.

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    Mike, i just want my sifu to get his due props.

    Although Doc Fai Wong stills teaches Lau Bun forms, but for our lineae, my sifu is the Main representative..no problem......just wanted to clarify things.

    peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    Mike, i just want my sifu to get his due props.

    Although Doc Fai Wong stills teaches Lau Bun forms, but for our lineae, my sifu is the Main representative..no problem......just wanted to clarify things.

    peace.
    It's all good Frank, no issues. Mike is just saying there are lineages of CLF in China that we don't really see here in the US, I think we all sort of already know that
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    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
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    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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    Quote Originally Posted by extrajoseph View Post
    Sorry to nitpick again, but if it is meant to be "Clear Cloud", then a sun radical is used, they are not one and the same:

    Clear
    Clean or Clear off:
    Green or Azure:
    Both and can mean "clear". But they sound different in standard Cantonese.

    The compound 晴雲 results in 103,00 hits in Google, whereas 清雲 gets 715,000.

    I would normally associate with 晴天 which means a clear bright day/sky.

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    I have a great idea!

    A forum dedicated to arguing over the correct Chinese character

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    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
    Quote Originally Posted by Taixuquan99 View Post
    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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    I thought GM Doc Fai Wong now refers to his lineage as the Jiangmen lineage?
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    Unless the water radical is used to indicate quiet and unattached as in "qing-jing" and "qing-xu".

    Quiet: SIZE="4"]清静[/SIZE]
    Unattached:清虚

    Or it could also refer to "qing-zhen", a Muslim temple.

    Muslim or Islamic: 清真

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    I thought GM Doc Fai Wong now refers to his lineage as the Jiangmen lineage?
    In that case he is "WELL HUNG" two!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    I have a great idea!

    A forum dedicated to arguing over the correct Chinese character

    It's your fault!

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    Thumbs up

    No, I think it's clearly Frank's fault
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    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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    I love arguing over Chinese characters.

    I vote 青云 because that's the combination that comes up by default on my MS-pinyin IME and also because 晴天 looks weird to me. No reason. Just my instinct saying it doesn't look like a good name for a MA school.

    I would normally associate 晴 with 晴天 which means a clear bright day/sky.
    Sorry to break this to you but so does 青天。Maybe 晴天 is a southern habit. Maybe extrajoseph forgot what "azure" means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omarthefish View Post

    Just my instinct saying it doesn't look like a good name for a MA school.
    It was the name of a monastery/Temple, which just happened to have a lot of martial arts people hanging around it....

    It is defintely "cloud"

    the initial problem was, the first time we saw Sifu write the character, it was with a spear point in the dirt in the park, we missed the water radical I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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