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    Is kung fu overly complicated?

    I love kung fu, the artistry, the sophistication of the movements, how healthy and centered I feel after doing a form but at the same time classical kung fu seems overly complicated.

    The true intent of the form is hidden and if never revealed by the teacher becomes lost amongst all the intricacy of movement.

    So how do we balance the Wen and Wu, the martial and civil to be excellent in both? To build our health, to improve our character but to also be capable at defending ourselves?

    Does one always come at the expense of the other?

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    Kung fu is simple, people are overcomplicated.
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    Kung fu is simple, people are overcomplicated.
    there are some really simple people on here also
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    there are some really simple people on here also
    Noo, now, play nice with others.
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    Noo, now, play nice with others.
    who? me? NEVER!

    I hope that CLEARS things up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Olson View Post
    I love kung fu, the artistry, the sophistication of the movements, how healthy and centered I feel after doing a form but at the same time classical kung fu seems overly complicated.

    The true intent of the form is hidden and if never revealed by the teacher becomes lost amongst all the intricacy of movement.

    So how do we balance the Wen and Wu, the martial and civil to be excellent in both? To build our health, to improve our character but to also be capable at defending ourselves?

    Does one always come at the expense of the other?

    Cheers

    EO

    fighting is simple once you are solid...you can spend years to get your wind and base skills like a good thai boxer...but the art of getting hit and hitting the **** out of someone is very simple and something we as animals are good at...it is quite natural, we fight gravity every day

    i always saw dope kung fu as that **** you do after you have the base skills...like two guys are kickboxing champs...one pulls out a drunken technique and tottally messes up the other guys head.

    yes it is very complex as we can see there is not many kung fu fighters like there are peeps that suck at form...you gotta be a fighter to have good form and vice versa, anything else is wimpy or brawler level and like mentioned fighting is simple...i used to brawl when i was thirteen hanging with twenty year olds...didn't mean i was a kickboxer let alone jackie chan.

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    "The true intent of the form is hidden and if never revealed"

    Yes, because most don't know it.

    "Does one always come at the expense of the other?"

    No

    Self defense or the use of each technique
    should be taught as you learn the "form"

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    Look at the Bong thread for an example of overcomplication.
    Can you imagine a thread like that with boxers discussing the left hook ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Look at the Bong thread for an example of overcomplication.
    Can you imagine a thread like that with boxers discussing the left hook ?
    Can you provide a link, I don't see it.

    Thanks

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    welcome back, i thought you swore it off for good. I think it was Lucas who apptly compared the forum to crack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodhitree View Post
    welcome back, i thought you swore it off for good. I think it was Lucas who apptly compared the forum to crack.
    Thanks for the welcome. I wasn't sure how people would respond but noone's torn my head off...yet.

    You're right, KFM is addictive. I started lurking and saw some things I wanted to respond to and got sucked right back in.

    Ah well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Olson View Post
    Can you provide a link, I don't see it.

    Thanks
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