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  1. 12-06-2007, 11:55 AM #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    ah, so you just chose to believe the system version of bull**** history?

    on Sonnon's side, we know there is a very real art of sambo that has been along a very long time. Sonnon's teacher coined the term "ROSS" and they are upfront about it. Systema? Find me anything that used that term in say 1970?

    Russian martial arts are a lot like Chinese martial arts, lots of fluff and a dependence upon people who don't know much about the details
    no, i didnt.

    please quote where i "just chose to believe the system version" ?

    i didnt chose to believe the systema version, i dont even know or care what it is. i've read and forgotten a bunch of stuff from both sides.

    the whole history thing is shady as hell, and i really dont give a **** anyway. look at the drills, look at the movements...

    imo sonnons "interesting bodywork" stuff is from the same source as systema. you can quote me on that
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  2. 12-06-2007, 11:56 AM #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Yes, nice guy actually, did a few of his classes in the 90's.
    cool.

    so, what did you make of it? i'm interested
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  3. 12-06-2007, 12:04 PM #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by stricker View Post
    cool.

    so, what did you make of it? i'm interested
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  4. 12-06-2007, 03:27 PM #94
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    Like I said, it's all just banging your head against a wall. The anti-systema cult vs the systema-cult lol
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  5. 12-06-2007, 03:46 PM #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Like I said, it's all just banging your head against a wall. The anti-systema cult vs the systema-cult lol
    Most of us really couldn't care less about systema, we just realize it is not what they say it is... on many levels

    considering you run an affiliate, you aren't exactly a neutral opinion are you?
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    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
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    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....
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  6. 12-06-2007, 04:05 PM #96
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    So I was born an affiliate? I had around 15+ years experience prior, trained with lots of "names", so I was hardly wet behind the ears when I met Vlad.

    As for it not being whay "they say it is" I most often find it's not what other people say it is, but there we go. The people who really couldn't care less (which is no problem) don't keep banging on about it on forums I would imagine
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    FAKE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJDnM...eature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    It wasn't for me, realize that I was coming in from kyokushin, judo, boxing and MT, it had very little to offer me, not a slight on it, just wasn't my bag of tea.
    fair enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    I can feel the holy spirit moving in me! Hallelujah!!!
    Somebody gave me that video, ugh. I've always found what Vlad was doing interesting though the training seems too unique. Once I would like to see Vlad move at full speed.
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    Dam nit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Like I said, it's all just banging your head against a wall. The anti-systema cult vs the systema-cult lol
    internet forums like banging your head against a wall?? never

    like i said... jewels among the dirt... no jewels this time
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    here are some more systema "jewels"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf0zf...eature=related
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    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
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    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
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  12. 12-07-2007, 07:38 AM #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gash View Post
    I can feel the holy spirit moving in me! Hallelujah!!!
    That ain't the holy spirit...
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