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    What formula are you talking about RD?

    This one:

    Fu Zi--30 gm (1 oz. is 28 gm. For convenience, we say 30 gm)
    Ban Xia--30 gm
    Di Gu Pi--60 gm
    Bai Bu--60 gm
    Long Gu--30 gm (optional--this is heat-treated cow bone (dragon bone))
    Tian Nan Xing--30 gm
    Hong Hua--30 gm
    She Chuang Zi--30 gm
    Chuan Xiong--30 gm
    Hua Jiao--15 gm--will be phased out due to new FDA restrictions
    San Qi--15 gm
    Xue Jie--30 gm
    Ru Xiang--30 gm
    Mo Yao--30 gm
    Ding Xiang--30 gm
    Dang Gui--30 gm
    Da Huang--15 gm
    Add separately after cooking:
    Camphor/Borneol Crystals--15 gm
    Menthol Crystals--15 gm

    Or this one:

    • Artemesia (Liu ji nu) - 5g
    • Borneol (Bingpian) - 1g
    • Carthamus (Honghua) - 5g
    • Catechu (Ercha) - 8g
    • Cinnabar (Zhusha) - 5g
    • Cirsium (DaJi) - 1g
    • Dragon's Blood (Xuejie) - 30g
    • Mastic (Ruxiang) - 5g
    • Musk (Shexiang) - 1g
    • Myrrh (Moyao) - 5g
    • Pinellia (ShengBanXia) - 5g
    Last edited by Dale Dugas; 02-14-2008 at 02:01 PM.
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    Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Dugas View Post
    What formula are you talking about RD?

    This one:

    Fu Zi--30 gm (1 oz. is 28 gm. For convenience, we say 30 gm)
    Ban Xia--30 gm
    Di Gu Pi--60 gm
    Bai Bu--60 gm
    Long Gu--30 gm (optional--this is heat-treated cow bone (dragon bone))
    Tian Nan Xing--30 gm
    Hong Hua--30 gm
    She Chuang Zi--30 gm
    Chuan Xiong--30 gm
    Hua Jiao--15 gm--will be phased out due to new FDA restrictions
    San Qi--15 gm
    Xue Jie--30 gm
    Ru Xiang--30 gm
    Mo Yao--30 gm
    Ding Xiang--30 gm
    Dang Gui--30 gm
    Da Huang--15 gm
    Add separately after cooking:
    Camphor/Borneol Crystals--15 gm
    Menthol Crystals--15 gm

    Or this one:

    • Artemesia (Liu ji nu) - 5g
    • Borneol (Bingpian) - 1g
    • Carthamus (Honghua) - 5g
    • Catechu (Ercha) - 8g
    • Cinnabar (Zhusha) - 5g
    • Cirsium (DaJi) - 1g
    • Dragon's Blood (Xuejie) - 30g
    • Mastic (Ruxiang) - 5g
    • Musk (Shexiang) - 1g
    • Myrrh (Moyao) - 5g
    • Pinellia (ShengBanXia) - 5g
    How about both....since there is the above & other old out dated formulas all over the web.....please break it down and let us know what subs would work for what you might consider the dangerous herbs. Also what about western counterparts for the TCM herbs.
    TT

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    I will do one at a time and talk about all the subs.

    Ill get this done over the weekend as Im running to teach..
    Mouth Boxers have not the testicular nor the spinal fortitude to be known.
    Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.

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    What formula are you talking about RD?

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    It doesn't really matter, any good IP formula would be fine to disect by the herbs effect rather than looking at the herb itself. It would be a good exercise I think.

    Also, what is the deal with this?

    Hua Jiao--15 gm--will be phased out due to new FDA restrictions

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    Yeah, I've heard nothing about FDA restrictions on hua jiao (pericarpum zanthoxylum bungeanum) - I do my best to stay abreast of these developments... . Hua Jiao / Chuan Jiao is Szechwan Pepper and has been used as a flavoring spice as well as an herb with tremendous powers in Chinese culture for ages. Uh, by the way, it's not really a pepper...

    It was, however, already banned for some years by the FDA not because of toxicity to humans, but rather it carried a virus that could potentially wipe out our citrus crops. That ban was lifted in 2005 when it was found that the virus could easily be killed by pasteurizing the hulls at 161F.

    In any case, the FDA should be more concerned about the metabolized byproducts of MSG, hydrolyzed vegetable protein and aspartame. These are the dirty secrets of the food industry that they don't want you to know.

    peace

    herb ox
    Last edited by herb ox; 02-14-2008 at 09:51 PM.

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    How about a quick enlightenment bro herb ox about aspartame, MSG etc? Please.

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    just do a google search for "excitotoxins" or "russell blaylock" - the first term describes the metabolic byproducts as they affect the nervous system by overstimulating it - this is the case with MSG, aspartame (nutrasweet), and hydrolyzed vegetable protein. The second term - "blaylock" is the name of the neurosurgeon who is trying to shake up the food industry. He published a book that makes a very convincing argument and is quite well documented and researched.

    check it

    ox
    Last edited by herb ox; 02-19-2008 at 11:12 AM. Reason: misspelled search term

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    Wow, this conversation just died.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal Dragon View Post
    Wow, this conversation just died.....
    No Kidding....I was looking foward to Dale breaking down the herbs and offering replacements for the ones considered toxic...or anything regarding useful herbs....I'm really interested in American replacements that can be grown or collected naturally.

    Also if I p!ssed Dale off I'm sorry...that was not my intent....only wanted respectful conversation....we're all brothers.
    TT

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    sorry as I have been out of town training with my shifu.

    Im also in nursing school working and teaching dit da and martial arts to students and I dont have much free time. Ill get back to this sometime in the near future when I have a minute.

    You can also come learn from me over a weekend...
    Mouth Boxers have not the testicular nor the spinal fortitude to be known.
    Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Dugas View Post
    sorry as I have been out of town training with my shifu.

    Im also in nursing school working and teaching dit da and martial arts to students and I dont have much free time. Ill get back to this sometime in the near future when I have a minute.

    You can also come learn from me over a weekend...
    I plan to do that someday...I don't have much free time either....your workshops are far away from me, so sometimes I have to take what I can get.
    Best,
    TT

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