Martial Arts & Religion

[Scott R. Brown]

Years ago I had a Christian friend who was against the marital arts because they bow to one and other and of course Christians, in his eyes, only bow to God.

I explained to him that bowing to each other was no different than shaking hands, it was not a form of worship, but a formal greeting.

He accepted that, but then he also couldn't accept meditation, because we all know meditation allows SATAN to enter your mind and control you!

[taai gihk yahn]

He accepted that, but then he also couldn't accept meditation, because we all know meditation allows SATAN to enter your mind and control you!

That is just the silliest thing that I have ever heard...

[SPJ]

when rock concert was popular among young people

church started to organize rock concernt like gospel music concert to attrack young crowd to the church.

so why not use a popular taichi exercise to spread the gospel to the senior?

tai chi and bible study session or camp?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cfJS...eature=related

I see both hands drawing a big tai chi circle

I also see horizontal cloud hand around the elbow or ping yun shou from wu style tai chi.

so the church is going to ban this song and tai chi like hand movement in this video?

wow, what is anti christ?

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[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgB8L...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gra4V...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHy...eature=related

rock my soul.

if you may use rock music and soul music to express your love for god and spread the gospel of god loving you.

why not use Tai chi to spread gospel, too?

tai chi is only about drawing circles, big and small with your arms and waist and steps etc.

up, down; circle to your left, circle to your right, circle to the back and circle to the front

put 2 hands together and stomping feet

I just described the first few postures of chen tai chi yi lu

I may add gospel music to the moves--

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where it the anti christ?

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIv1JpqbzQA

[lkfmdc]

I read this and thought "Jesus Christ"!

[Scott R. Brown]

I read this and thought "Jesus Christ"!

Yes?

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[SPJ]

the intent or idea of tai chi or tai chi quan

1. it is be like the water

yield when resistance is met

2. follow the nature

if the flood is coming, go to high ground

if it is raining, run for cover

if the wind is blowing strong, hide in a cover--

3. the nature of thing is change, so we change to adapt, too

so nature is anti Christ

water is anti Christ

change to adapt or evolution and mutation is anti Christ--

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4. didn't God create nature?

how is nature anti the creator?

leaning about nature is learning the work of God

understanding nature is understanding God

tai chi is an idea or diagram to understand nature and understand change

so tai chi is to understand work of God (nature)

so tai chi is to understand God (nature created by God)

5. how is tai chi anti Christ?

b/c it is eastern? b/c it is taoism?

I though the tao of the church is God.

the taoism of the Christian is Christ

so taoism is not ant Christ.

God created and love both western and eastern people and anyone living in the between.

In his hand he got the whole world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xscZeFD2m_o

both the sunny side (yang) and the shady side (yin).

the world and the yang and yin are in his hand!!!

wa ka da? verstehn Sie? comprande? zhi dao ma?

geesh.

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUnvF...eature=related

remember this?

I do.

and the question is that do you?

[No_Know]

"Today 10:22 AM

SPJ

the intent or idea of tai chi or tai chi quan

1. it is be like the water

yield when resistance is met

2. follow the nature

if the flood is coming, go to high ground

if it is raining, run for cover

if the wind is blowing strong, hide in a cover--

3. the nature of thing is change, so we change to adapt, too

so nature is anti Christ

water is anti Christ

change to adapt or evolution and mutation is anti Christ--"

For 1 you say yield when resistance is met I say it is expolde in a different direction.

In 2 you say if flood is comming go to high ground is following nature. I say following Nature one drowns. That might be how we came to swim and later to go to high ground. But it was a process of learning and willingness.

You say if raining run for cover. I say not in all cases of rain run for cover or shelterfrom the rain--sometimes celebrate the necessity given before you for all to have and partake in the moment that can be joyous baptized by water you bring-up running from baptism--running from communion with God. No sunny days are good Rainy days are Bad. Each day is Wonder-filled by being God Is and I Am.--No_Know

You say hide when the wind blows yet I feel the breeze. The wind can bring relief--warm winds, cool winds...Step from them should they worsen. Embrace them-become them when you delight...

You say nature of things is change and bring up that that is anti... Christ is the Child. Yet there is Parent the Child and the Holly Spirt these are fluxes-differences-changes(?) that are constant

You say water is antichrist(?) Water is water. Yet there is water, there is ice and there is steam/vapor--one that is three...

No_Know

[SPJ]

there are many Christians or people believe in god doing tai chi.

and not all tai chi players are Christians.


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if the church in the article decides what is anti Christ

then they must decide first what is pro Christ--

if tai chi is anti Christ, then how about yoga

yoga is from india (east) and there is a yogic buddhist branch--

so yoga is anti Christ?

banning yoga yes or no?

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makes you ponder?

[SPJ]

"Today 10:22 AM

For 1 you say yield when resistance is met I say it is expolde in a different direction.

In 2 you say if flood is comming go to high ground is following nature. I say following Nature one drowns. That might be how we came to swim and later to go to high ground. But it was a process of learning and willingness.

You say if raining run for cover. I say not in all cases of rain run for cover or shelterfrom the rain--sometimes celebrate the necessity given before you for all to have and partake in the moment that can be joyous baptized by water you bring-up running from baptism--running from communion with God. No sunny days are good Rainy days are Bad. Each day is Wonder-filled by being God Is and I Am.--No_Know

You say hide when the wind blows yet I feel the breeze. The wind can bring relief--warm winds, cool winds...Step from them should they worsen. Embrace them-become them when you delight...

You say nature of things is change and bring up that that is anti... Christ is the Child. Yet there is Parent the Child and the Holly Spirt these are fluxes-differences-changes(?) that are constant

You say water is antichrist(?) Water is water. Yet there is water, there is ice and there is steam/vapor--one that is three...

No_Know

1. yes we may swim in the flood, and walk against strong wind or typhoon, and soak in a monsoon,

when you are tire and cold---hypothermia, hypoglycemia (burn out your sugar)

people are tiny compared with the power of the nature--

2. water is here and water is there-- we are not as changeable as the water

of course, ice is solid with form/shape, vapor may go up to the sky--

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[SPJ]

Judo and akido may be next anti christ

since tai chi, judo and a ki do share similar eastern philosophy

being eastern

and being yielding and in harmony with nature and people

etc etc.

so pro christ is being western and not in harmony with nature???

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I am really UPSET about no tai chi for christian

shall I change my faith or religion---

since I am not stopping doing tai chi.

wow I have be anti christ for over 30 years--

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[SPJ]

I have a friend from Tian Ji that visited me.

His si gung was a student and learned tai chi at Yang Cheng Fu's house.

He is teaching a tai chi class for actors and actresses in hollywood every monday.

I told him we are anti christ.

He has no religion. He did not know Christ well, what is anti christ

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I was going to translate some unpublished oral manuals about si zheng pushhand from Yang Cheng Fu.

Being anti christ I have to think twice about it.

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[SPJ]

http://www.whitedragon.co.uk/images/...YangSchool.PNG

We have been anti christ.